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In reply to the discussion: Conn. man kills masked boy, finds out it's his son [View all]4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)232. Because it takes time to call the cops
It's pretty easy for someone to be murdered in the minute or so it takes to find your cellphone, call the cops, and describe what's happening.
If a dog was chewing on your leg would your first response be to kick him off or call animal control? Why not call the pros first?
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The 'multiple' gungeoneers who are 'suddenly' responding to this post are wasting their time.
onehandle
Sep 2012
#241
My sympathies extend to the mother of this child. The father should get life in prison.
Happyhippychick
Sep 2012
#10
For what crime? The kid burglarized the house of a woman and was armed. nt
geek tragedy
Sep 2012
#11
Is he a cop? No. This vigilante shit is not good. And we don't know the kid was armed.
Happyhippychick
Sep 2012
#18
He should be able to protect himself but it wasn't HIS house. It was the neighbor.
Happyhippychick
Sep 2012
#45
I''m sure the man who just killed his son doesn't believe this any longer.
Happyhippychick
Sep 2012
#55
i dont know this town but were i live it can take the popo forever to arrive
loli phabay
Sep 2012
#26
I tell my neighbours if something's wrong at night, call the police and then call me.
Prometheus Bound
Sep 2012
#123
Sympathies should go out to everyone. A father who killed a prowler who just happened to be his own
madinmaryland
Sep 2012
#14
Yes. The son could have not tried to break in to that woman's house
4th law of robotics
Sep 2012
#94
I don't have a lot of sympathy for idiots who get killed while breaking and entering
4th law of robotics
Sep 2012
#115
I haven't seen anything to indicate he actually has a mother to monitor his behavior.
LisaL
Sep 2012
#194
I am going to note this in the gun thread I am currently arguing against
graham4anything
Sep 2012
#17
It appears you don't don't know anything about the mechanics or legalities or morality....
PavePusher
Oct 2012
#266
I want to know how long between the call & the shooting. Also, what else occurred? Lights turned on?
patrice
Sep 2012
#130
The dead son who was apparently attempting to commit a crime in the middle of the night...
PavePusher
Sep 2012
#209
I'm fairly heartless here. Guy grabs gun and shoots first, without a warning or questioning?
dorksied
Sep 2012
#37
Yes. We need to know more about what happened in the confrontation.How long from encounter to death?
patrice
Sep 2012
#133
Sympathies to the victims mother.....she lost a son and has a complete moron for a husband
AnOhioan
Sep 2012
#42
Why the mask? Was he planning on assaulting the woman, and did not want to be identified?
Tom Ripley
Sep 2012
#47
He would still be innocent until proven guilty. You don't execute people for what they MIGHT do.
patrice
Sep 2012
#138
I concur. If the story is accurate (and that's a big if) it sounds just like addict behavior.
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#98
Still doesn't justify summary execution. There has to be authentic danger to life or health. nt
patrice
Sep 2012
#139
I will take that as an assent, then, that we should shoot people for what they MIGHT do, BEFORE
patrice
Sep 2012
#147
It really does depend on whether someone is rushing at you with an apparent weapon
FiveGoodMen
Sep 2012
#151
Yes, like the Trayvon Martin case, how far away was this threat? Was he rushing? Even if he was
patrice
Sep 2012
#160
Yeah, I'm not taking a side on this case. I don't know enough of what really happened.
FiveGoodMen
Sep 2012
#161
I'm not either, unlike some in this thread, NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION. And yet we are to believe
patrice
Sep 2012
#163
Funny how people who preach personal responsibility are so slavish about rules WHEN IT SERVES
patrice
Sep 2012
#185
That is an intentional mischaracterization. Not all threats are to kill & you don't think anyonehas
patrice
Sep 2012
#162
I don't believe "should" is accurate. It's legally justifiable to shoot people if you REASONABLY...
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#166
How much damage do you insist I take before allowing me the possiblity of being at severe risk?
PavePusher
Sep 2012
#211
I live out in the woods too, and you're right, when you need someone there NOW, it can take the
Brickbat
Sep 2012
#65
I live in a suburb of a major city, and if the police get here in 20 minutes you're lucky
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#67
I have been high and dressed in black many times, but never while also wearing a ski mask and...
Tom Ripley
Sep 2012
#197
Either that, or you can fertilize the lawn with the father's official story...
Blue_Tires
Sep 2012
#69
And of course we also have the typical knee-jerk reactions from cop haters and gun haters...
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#84
That's what I was just going to say. "Lawn order is all fucked up in this country. Arm yourselves!"
patrice
Sep 2012
#144
he, he, old joke from the '60s, but I'm gonna have to go look "sward" up, you got
patrice
Oct 2012
#270
Do you think it's more likely the father just murdered his son for no reason
4th law of robotics
Sep 2012
#97
That makes more sense than a dope-head teenager making stupid decisons and getting himself killed
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#101
That's because the only people who tout the glories of guns are people who don't like guns
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#72
That's because you read selectively, and have a strong bias against people who own and use guns
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#75
I have made several concrete suggestions for that dozens of times on DU, and they rarely get noticed
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#82
Thank you. I ALWAYS appreciate a courteous, rational discussion with people even if we disagree.
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#104
Those are all very good suggestions. But the gun issue, like this case, is a hot-button issue.
freshwest
Sep 2012
#240
K, but someone is carrying a gun, ergo, there is a probability that something COULD happen that the
patrice
Sep 2012
#149
The fact that she didn't call 911 could also mean she didn't think it that serious. If she had
patrice
Sep 2012
#148
Obviously she and the police are all part of a conspiracy to murder that poor child
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#102
Do you think the police could have gotten to her house more quickly than her next-door neighbor?
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#109
You believe the police would NOT have shot a masked person lunging at them while clutching...
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#111
It isn't necessarily about the cops using firearms, but also about their LEGAL capacity to deal
patrice
Sep 2012
#150
True. When the police call was made is a question. That information isn't in the story. nt
patrice
Sep 2012
#159
People who aren't cops have a legal right to defend themselves in a dangerous situation
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#171
No one's disputing that. The question is: do they have a personal responsibility to assess how
patrice
Sep 2012
#180
I don't know how easy that is but I bet the dad wishes he didn't shoot at all now. /nt
Ash_F
Sep 2012
#131
Every firearm class I've taken has stressed aiming for center of mass, but to shoot only...
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#142
+++1 Even if you miss, you express serious intent that will mean something significant to yourtarget
patrice
Sep 2012
#153
Another thing to consider is that shooting someone in the leg could still quickly kill them.
Ash_F
Sep 2012
#158
My CCW instructor said if you pull your gun, you are committing to killing
obamanut2012
Sep 2012
#258
If you walk into a courtroom with that, the prosecution will be very happy with you.
PavePusher
Oct 2012
#265
There are plenty of cases where someone defended themselves with a gun without shooting.
Ash_F
Sep 2012
#245
the weapon was a knife that was still in the kid's hand when police arrived
TorchTheWitch
Sep 2012
#248
I tentatively believe it, because I have no other source of hard information about the event
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#145
It's at least as possible that he could have shot his sister, isn't it? Even if one just has to
patrice
Sep 2012
#156
Everyone who owns a gun should understand the basic rules of safe gun handling
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#188
What he did is legal in Texas. The two thieves he killed knew they were risking their lives.
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#253
I am appalled at all the people who are implying that the son deserved it
Lydia Leftcoast
Sep 2012
#214
Not one reply in this entire thread suggests that burglary calls for summary execution
slackmaster
Sep 2012
#217
A person with a knife attacked a man, who then defended himself with a firearm.
PavePusher
Sep 2012
#249
According to the Hartford Courant article: "Opened fire...shot multiple times"
Lydia Leftcoast
Sep 2012
#251
P.S. Someone attacking another person with a knife is NOT a "possible threat"....
PavePusher
Oct 2012
#267