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In reply to the discussion: Report: Sears To Offer Cash Rather Than Health Insurance Plans [View all]Lint Head
(15,064 posts)26. Wonder how much cash they will give when a person has a $100,000 bill for cancer treatment?
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and that fixed amount of money probably will not grow even as health insurance rate go up.
antigop
Sep 2012
#1
yep. that's exactly what it is...and the company decides how big that voucher is n/t
antigop
Sep 2012
#6
and unless the employees belong to a union, they have no control over the amount n/t
antigop
Sep 2012
#7
the article said other companies will be watching..and if they all do it, where are you going to go?
antigop
Sep 2012
#103
IMO it should be either on the employee or the Government, but it sure should not be required of the
Bandit
Sep 2012
#15
especially when the companies see health care as an expense they want to minimize n/t
antigop
Sep 2012
#16
I think there is merit to your remarks. I think part of the problem people had with single payer...
antigop
Sep 2012
#9
Single Payer Now is right. We first need a Dem House, Senate, and Prez. Only then do we
valerief
Sep 2012
#14
I agree...now is the right time...but will the Dems have the backbone to stand up to the insurance
antigop
Sep 2012
#17
Where are you getting that health insurance is a result of pay caps during the war?
Hassin Bin Sober
Sep 2012
#21
Which doesn't explain why it continued after the war. In fact, it was a way to compete for
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#97
I agree universal coverage is optimal. But it was no less optimal then. Employer health care was
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#105
a thought as to why employers (especially large companies) didn't push for single-payer
antigop
Sep 2012
#20
most (if not all) large employers are self-insured. Only use ins cos for billing and admin. n/t
antigop
Sep 2012
#34
just like paul ryans DEFINED CONTRIBUTION plan. paul ryan only gives fixed amount
leftyohiolib
Sep 2012
#53
yes...that's EXACTLY what it is. The "fixed amount of money" is your voucher. n/t
antigop
Sep 2012
#58
How "great" it is depends entirely on how much money is offered (and how much of that is taxed)
highplainsdem
Sep 2012
#25
FYI...most large employers today are self-insured. Ins cos used for billing and admin only. n/t
antigop
Sep 2012
#40
self-insured plans are like single-payer -- no insurance company for underwriting. n/t
antigop
Sep 2012
#48
the only thing you will eventually be able to buy is a (very) high-deductible plan. n/t
antigop
Sep 2012
#42
Of couse you do. It's a wonderful way for the healthy majority to fuck over sick people
eridani
Sep 2012
#98
Wonder how much cash they will give when a person has a $100,000 bill for cancer treatment?
Lint Head
Sep 2012
#26
I just sent this to a Repub friend who gets his health care from his wife who works at Sears.
PuppyBismark
Sep 2012
#33
well...he should love it. It's the Republican "consumer-driven" health plan. n/t
antigop
Sep 2012
#35
Our companies will never be competitive in a global market if they keep paying health care.
Exultant Democracy
Sep 2012
#36
and wanna bet the fixed amount of money won't be anywhere near $15k for family coverage? n/t
antigop
Sep 2012
#46
There are very few -- if any companies -- paying $15K a year for employee's families.
Hoyt
Sep 2012
#63
Right now employers cut back their premium share, increase deductibles/coinsurance, etc.
Hoyt
Sep 2012
#50
If it occurs in 2014 -- Obamacare to the rescue with no "pre-existing" exclusions.
Hoyt
Sep 2012
#61
If recent history is any indicator, I'm not optimistic our requests are going to be met.
HughBeaumont
Sep 2012
#76
I don't think enough people have been hurt enough yet by today's health care system.
antigop
Sep 2012
#83
The problem is these workers were probably in self-insured plans and now have to move to the open
antigop
Sep 2012
#84
Oh, nothing to see here...move along. So sayeth the people with insurance.
Safetykitten
Sep 2012
#77
My brother's company is currently studying where to go with their health care benefits
madville
Sep 2012
#100