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In reply to the discussion: China Shows Off Carrier, but Experts Are Skeptical [View all]caraher
(6,278 posts)36. Forgers?
The carrier is probably more combat-effective without planes than flying the Forger! It was a piece of shit. From the Wikipedia article on the Yak-38:
... towards the middle of the 1980s, the Yak-38 was removed from front line service and transferred to land-based operations. The aircraft proved to have problems in conditions of high heat/high humidity, was underpowered and lacked an adequate combat radius. In fact, due to these limitations, one of the nicknames that the aircraft earned in the Soviet naval jargon was "a pigeon of peace". Another less than flattering nickname earned due to inadequate combat radius was "fore-mast defense aircraft". In 1991, the type was retired from the Soviet Navy, and transferred to storage.
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I'm a carrier, you're a carrier, he's a carrier, she's a carrier--wait, no she's not
Kennah
Sep 2012
#55
Chinese Paper Tiger Military. . .looks good in their uniforms, worthless everywhere else
Suji to Seoul
Sep 2012
#15
You sound like you're channeling Douglas MacArthur (pre-Chosin). I'm sure
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#48
I live here in China. I think i know what I see everyday from the Chinese military
Suji to Seoul
Oct 2012
#57
I'll readily defer to your current on-the-ground perspective if you promise me you
coalition_unwilling
Oct 2012
#58
There is some question about how well carriers of any nation would survive a major war
daleo
Sep 2012
#43
They have a long ways to go before they are a professional navy in regards to
neverforget
Sep 2012
#50