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struggle4progress

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63. Heroic Ecuador defends the natural right of men everywhere to have sex with unconscious women!
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 05:31 PM
Sep 2012


Ecuador's president, Rafael Correa, has said ... the case would not in his view constitute criminal behaviour in Latin America ...

Julian Assange sex claims not a crime in Latin America – Ecuador president
Jonathan Watts in Guayaquil
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 22 August 2012 01.27 EDT
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/22/ecuador-president-assange-sweden-sex


The president of Ecuador has dismissed the allegations against Julian Assange by claiming that a man who shares a bed with a woman cannot be accused of rape. Rafael Correa said the accusations would not be considered crimes in '90 to 95 per cent of the planet' and questioned the behaviour and motives of the alleged victims ...

'Sharing a bed cannot lead to rape': Ecuador's president leaps to the defence of Assange
By Nazia Parveen
PUBLISHED: 05:23 EST, 26 August 2012 | UPDATED: 17:27 EST, 26 August 2012
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2193775/Rafael-Correa-President-Ecuador-claims-sharing-bed-lead-rape-defends-Julian-Assange.html


"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story"
– Den andra kvinnan ville anmäla för våldtäkt. Jag gav min berättelse som vittnesmål till hennes berättelse och för att stötta henne

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article7652935.ab


... The position with offence 4 is different. This is an allegation of rape. The framework list is ticked for rape. The defence accepts that normally the ticking of a framework list offence box on an EAW would require very little analysis by the court. However they then developed a sophisticated argument that the conduct alleged here would not amount to rape in most European countries. However, what is alleged here is that Mr Assange “deliberately consummated sexual intercourse with her by improperly exploiting that she, due to sleep, was in a helpless state”. In this country that would amount to rape ...

City of Westminster Magistrates’ Court (Sitting at Belmarsh Magistrates’ Court)
The judicial authority in Sweden -v- Julian Paul Assange
Findings of facts and reasons



dude... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #1
it's just a job. ret5hd Sep 2012 #2
good point... a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #4
Your job is the same as the rest of us Bragi Sep 2012 #42
Damn... missed the memo a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #43
see OPer yurbud Sep 2012 #59
should I do weekly or quarterly reports? a geek named Bob Sep 2012 #61
Yep. Gotta keep labeling the propaganda for what it is. woo me with science Sep 2012 #53
thank you. i'm too lazy to type that much. ret5hd Sep 2012 #67
This is good news. avaistheone1 Sep 2012 #3
To paraphrase an astute comment from Obama's speech to the UN today: JDPriestly Sep 2012 #5
The US hasn't done anything to Assange. They've only prosecuted Manning, because he was pnwmom Sep 2012 #6
so far there has been no prosecution of Manning Pharaoh Sep 2012 #7
You're right, I misspoke. n/t pnwmom Sep 2012 #8
You are incorrect. There has been no trial, but there is a prosecution. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #22
Wrong, msanthrope! No charges have been filed against Assange! Peace Patriot Sep 2012 #31
Um--Do you realize I was replying to a post about Bradley Manning, not Mr. Assange? msanthrope Sep 2012 #39
"... It is a central contention of the defence that the warrant was issued for questioning struggle4progress Sep 2012 #64
you really can not prosecute Pharaoh Sep 2012 #83
What are you talking about? His trial is scheduled for next year, after the defense completes its msanthrope Sep 2012 #86
The trial had most recently been scheduled to start 21 September but was delayed by struggle4progress Sep 2012 #91
There were rumors of a grand jury before the Swedish matter was big in the press. JDPriestly Sep 2012 #17
Rumors? So? The grand jury is needed to prosecute Manning. pnwmom Sep 2012 #28
The nature of the investigation was revealed by Australian media... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #34
If the US had sent an extradition request, the UK could have detained him at any point pnwmom Sep 2012 #37
The Australian embassy reported... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #38
They WERE under consideration, but -- upon consideration -- it was clear that the laws pnwmom Sep 2012 #49
Do you have any proof of this or is it just mere speculation? AntiFascist Sep 2012 #51
What is a fact is that the Obama administration made no move to extradict Assange from pnwmom Sep 2012 #54
See post #55 below... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #56
Because the US is not ready to try to extradite Assange at this time. JDPriestly Sep 2012 #55
they don't need Pharaoh Sep 2012 #84
Under Swedish law, Assange's trial should begin within two weeks of the day he's charged, struggle4progress Sep 2012 #93
check your sources reorg Sep 2012 #96
Well you may well be right, I dont know and as long as Assange is allowed to remain cstanleytech Sep 2012 #45
So, do you have any evidence.... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #9
British minister predicts long showdown over Assange struggle4progress Sep 2012 #24
Here is the Swedish Prosecution Authority's website... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #36
There has been a Swedish court order for Assange's arrest since 2010: Assange appealed struggle4progress Sep 2012 #44
You probably haven't heard reorg Sep 2012 #46
The ICJ ruled in1950 that diplomactic ayslum is not part of accepted international law hack89 Sep 2012 #47
It is quite funny reorg Sep 2012 #48
LA can believe and do what they want hack89 Sep 2012 #50
The discussion tonight is about human rights reorg Sep 2012 #62
Why do you keep minimizing the rape charges? hack89 Sep 2012 #70
I know the prosecutor is investigating possible charges reorg Sep 2012 #75
I read the four detailed charges in the arrest warrant hack89 Sep 2012 #77
Yawn n/t reorg Sep 2012 #78
Didn't think you had read them hack89 Sep 2012 #80
You already had the last word reorg Sep 2012 #81
Don't you think it is up to the Swedes to decide what consitutes rape hack89 Sep 2012 #79
No, I don't think it is up to the Swedes to decide reorg Sep 2012 #82
I know exactly what the charges are - I have posted them hack89 Sep 2012 #88
"Unlawful coercion", "Sexual molestation" (twice), "Rape" hack89 Sep 2012 #89
Wait, wait! The US has been using its embassies to shoot local folk? Since when? struggle4progress Sep 2012 #60
I remember lengthy discussions here reorg Sep 2012 #66
That was a strange case. Raymond Davis showed some consular ID, but he never showed embassy ID. struggle4progress Sep 2012 #76
Correction to the CNN hack: AntiFascist Sep 2012 #52
Assange is absolutely the wrong case to advance the cause hack89 Sep 2012 #57
Regardless of how some people feel about Assange... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #58
I don't read Spanish. nt hack89 Sep 2012 #71
Yep, it can only be that. harmonicon Sep 2012 #10
Heroic Ecuador defends the natural right of men everywhere to have sex with unconscious women! struggle4progress Sep 2012 #63
Fact is reorg Sep 2012 #68
The actual facts of the case can be determined in the Swedish courts -- but struggle4progress Sep 2012 #72
the sad fact is that Swedish prosecutors are powerless reorg Sep 2012 #74
You're actually trying this shit on me? harmonicon Sep 2012 #85
I provided quotes from Correa, one of the women, and the UK magistrate struggle4progress Sep 2012 #92
Not the quotes, chief, your editorializing. harmonicon Sep 2012 #94
Mr. Assange's stalker strikes again here in DU. MNBrewer Sep 2012 #11
It's quite amazing. Quite an obsession for this person. JDPriestly Sep 2012 #12
What is also interesting... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #13
Makes no sense. I think that the national security bureaucracy is just furious because Assange JDPriestly Sep 2012 #16
The US investigation against Assange... AntiFascist Sep 2012 #18
If you don't like the story, you can always complain to AP or the Washington Post struggle4progress Sep 2012 #73
I'll continue to point out that you're an Assange Stalker MNBrewer Sep 2012 #95
I'll point out that no one forces you to read my remarks struggle4progress Sep 2012 #97
Desperately clinging to an interpretation of events cprise Sep 2012 #14
K&R This should get interesting... midnight Sep 2012 #15
"embassy hideout"??? Matariki Sep 2012 #19
LBN SOP: struggle4progress Sep 2012 #20
Yeah, well. I guess AP headline writers are unprofessional idiots then. Matariki Sep 2012 #21
Foreign Minister Bob Carr has dismissed Julian Assange's attempts to try and address ... struggle4progress Sep 2012 #23
Mr Carr is very selective in choosing whom to help. Matilda Sep 2012 #26
"Assange refused offer of assistance from Australia" msanthrope Sep 2012 #27
So "they" say. Matilda Sep 2012 #29
Well, if they are all against him, why is he complaining about their lack of help? msanthrope Sep 2012 #41
Carr details Assange consular help struggle4progress Sep 2012 #30
That 'list" is not proof of diplomatic assistance. Matilda Sep 2012 #35
"... Since he was arrested in the UK in December 2010 he has been visited by consular officials, struggle4progress Sep 2012 #65
I bet he wears a "Free the Malvinas" t-shirt for his speech. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #25
that's Argentina not Ecuador grantcart Sep 2012 #32
If you read the OP, there's a story about Assange trying to get Argentinian support. msanthrope Sep 2012 #40
Will you be giving a heads up so everyone can tune in? grantcart Sep 2012 #33
http://rt.com/on-air/un-general-assembly-live/ reorg Sep 2012 #69
Videolink? He's not even trying anymore cemaphonic Sep 2012 #87
"This can only be understood..."!? roody Sep 2012 #90
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