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PoindexterOglethorpe

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58. Penicillin will only matter with illnesses that are caused by bacteria. Not viruses.
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 02:17 AM
Feb 2020

I am not certain if the pneumonia that's such a common side-effect of influenza, especially in older people, is in that case bacterial or viral. I honestly don't know.

Herd immunity is certainly a factor. But so are public health measures like hand washing. In 1918, and for several decades thereafter, running water was not so common in houses or apartments, even in first world countries. That alone meant a lot of people weren't washing their hands regularly. And I suppose the desperately poor might not have afforded soap, even if they had running water. I've been fairly poor at times in my life, where we did without certain things (I recall shampoo for my hair being in short supply at one point) and that a free meal actually made a difference in my budget. So I do understand poverty, and I'm grateful that my times of relative poverty never lasted very long.

From what we seem to know about the Chinese meat markets, I think it's fair to say that not only are they largely unregulated, but are probably hideously unsanitary. I'm also going to go out on a limb here and suggest that maybe regular hand-washing isn't what it ought to be in that country. As for the "hospitals" that got set up very quickly, from what I understand they were simply places to warehouse sick people, and it's not obvious to the casual observer that much real medical care was taking place. Hence the relatively high death rate in China. Plus smoking. China has a very high smoking rate and surprise, surprise, what seems to kill with this corona virus is Acute Respiratory Failure Syndrome. And smokers (and those who live with them) are going to be far more susceptible.

Yikes 😳 dewsgirl Feb 2020 #1
Given the Trump admin's efforts to quell info for fear of panicking the markets... Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #2
I'm surprised they did as well. The CDC put out a tweet dewsgirl Feb 2020 #3
You mean being a borderline agoraphobic introvert who hates to leave his house might save me? Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #4
IKR same here. I do live with a child though, the germs dewsgirl Feb 2020 #6
LOL !! I'm in the same 'fortunate' situation !! alittlelark Feb 2020 #8
I babysit my grands- Alliepoo Feb 2020 #21
The overall fatality rate is 3.1%, as of two days ago Warpy Feb 2020 #36
Why not hand sanitizer ? What about Lysol products. What products are best for wipe downs lunasun Feb 2020 #56
Just about anything labeled disinfectant will do the job Warpy Feb 2020 #59
Thanks ! lunasun Feb 2020 #60
As a health care provider what stuck in my mind littlemissmartypants Feb 2020 #61
Thanks +the caution you take is not extreme . I live where there is a long flu season during cold lunasun Feb 2020 #62
I'm right moniss Feb 2020 #25
The problem is eventually... forkol Feb 2020 #33
Yes indeed moniss Feb 2020 #40
I'm not agoraphobic or especially introverted, and I still don't like leaving the house much mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #53
This is a post i saw on Stat Medical site ace3csusm Feb 2020 #9
D/L to your system - you should be able to upload from there Hestia Feb 2020 #26
Nope ... there's no file hosting here at DU ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #54
Brave person.. mmbrevo Feb 2020 #19
The fly in the ointment not fooled Feb 2020 #5
We are no better (and likely much worse) than Italy in preparation for what the Coronavirus brings Pachamama Feb 2020 #7
I flew into MIA airport yesterday forkol Feb 2020 #38
This is just more verification that the current situation is not being handled properly Pachamama Feb 2020 #42
Considering the gops attitude towards the cdc.. Maxheader Feb 2020 #10
Okay matt819 Feb 2020 #11
In 2018, Drumpf fired the entire pandemic response chain of command Hestia Feb 2020 #30
I know matt819 Feb 2020 #44
from The Atlantic yaesu Feb 2020 #12
Trump should be quarantined with the virus. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #13
"coronavirus TO spread" TO!! Is it so hard for them to avoid ambiguous headlines? NurseJackie Feb 2020 #14
Mother Nature teaches the GOP about science bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #15
Duck And Cover mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2020 #16
OK, I get the snark. But the potential spread of coronavirus is not a joke, and taking simple Nitram Feb 2020 #24
Sure, the Republican administration could do the right thing, but what are the odds of that? mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2020 #27
But, but , but....tRUMP said not to worry and just now SayItLoud Feb 2020 #17
How the fuck do we "prepare"? Call Legal Zoom and make a will? I'm gonna invest my entire 401K into BamaRefugee Feb 2020 #18
Pay attention to the news, particularly outbreaks in your own community, and take precautions. Nitram Feb 2020 #23
I live and work in an area that has 7 out of 10 of the highest Asian poulation towns in California. BamaRefugee Feb 2020 #43
There's good news that trials for a vaccine will begin in 6 weeks. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #46
Here's a link: Delphinus Feb 2020 #29
Buy a huge supply of SPAM and beer. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2020 #63
Will Trump now fire these public health officials? Loubee Feb 2020 #20
Why would he? Every agency is pretty much corrupted live love laugh Feb 2020 #47
Please remember that "preparing" doesn't mean panicking. Nitram Feb 2020 #22
I keep seeing posts telling DUers not to "panic" or "get hysterical"-- Mrs. Overall Feb 2020 #32
An increase in suicides, a break down in law and order, running for the hills Kaleva Feb 2020 #41
People here are citing ludicrously high death rates. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #45
I'm equally puzzled about why this seems to be Phoenix61 Feb 2020 #52
I suppose it's simply that flu is ordinary and common PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #55
The chart is interesting. I did a quick check Phoenix61 Feb 2020 #57
Penicillin will only matter with illnesses that are caused by bacteria. Not viruses. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #58
You'll find some examples in this thread. Nitram Feb 2020 #64
But!!!! Timmygoat Feb 2020 #28
Yeah, he also said Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #35
I notice that travel insurance is MontanaMama Feb 2020 #31
Duct tape your windows! Renew Deal Feb 2020 #34
I'm going to file my absentee ballot now and find a cave. Throck Feb 2020 #37
Kudlow said they have it contained, "I won't say airtight but pretty close to airtight." progressoid Feb 2020 #39
This takes me back to 1982 and the AIDs/HIV outbreak. YOHABLO Feb 2020 #48
I have stopped playing in Texas Holdem poker tournaments olddad65 Feb 2020 #49
A CDC expert on Rachel Maddow just mentioned... AntiFascist Feb 2020 #50
I listened to Rachel this evening and she really scared me. I was so upset I had to turn her off. katmondoo Feb 2020 #51
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