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KY_EnviroGuy

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25. The investigation will have to play out Dennis, but a local video showed...
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:00 AM
Jan 2020

the aircraft on fire as it plunged from a high altitude, and the descent was very rapid. Something must have destroyed the flight data transponders at high altitude.

Seems that would be caused either by catastrophic fuel system explosion (like the one out off Long Island), or a bomb exploding on-board (like the one out of Egypt) or a missile hit. I suppose a severe catastrophic engine failure could also light up an aircraft if flying debris hit the fuel tanks.

Considering the very raw political environment and the governments involved, I'm not sure this event will receive a proper investigation. They might not even allow Boeing in the country. Hell, they may even ask Russia to help conduct the investigation.

Brings back memories of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 shot down over Ukraine in 2014. Not saying this one was shot down, but the extreme rapid loss of altitude and total destruction of the aircraft is similar.

Iran may have radar data they have not released as well....and may choose not to. Will be interesting to see who they ask to analyze the black boxes. I'm almost sure they don't have the capability and if I recall correctly, there's only a few labs in the world that can do it.

I'm not really familiar with flight tracking systems but just like to tinker with it on-line within the limitations of what they allow for free.

. applegrove Jan 2020 #1
Omg, horrible DesertRat Jan 2020 #2
What a coincidence. SergeStorms Jan 2020 #3
Looks like the dumbf@cks operating the AA system shot down the wrong plane inwiththenew Jan 2020 #4
Maybe see who was on the plane? maybe. n/t MarcA Jan 2020 #5
Potentially shot down by Iran? Only one source Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #6
That is a very curious translation sarisataka Jan 2020 #16
who would intentionally injure a missile in flight? getagrip_already Jan 2020 #29
"Most of the passengers aboard the Ukrainian flight... have died" Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #7
Yep: dalton99a Jan 2020 #15
The 737 strikes again Recursion Jan 2020 #8
I don't think this was a MAX. Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #9
I don't remember if the advisory was limited to the MAX Recursion Jan 2020 #12
The 737-800 is a safe plane discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2020 #21
The aircraft that crashed was this 737-800: dalton99a Jan 2020 #10
Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #11
Sir, this is a Wendy's. AtheistCrusader Jan 2020 #13
which puppet was it? rufus dog Jan 2020 #14
A one post wonder. herding cats Jan 2020 #17
Preliminary information is engine failure muriel_volestrangler Jan 2020 #18
The Beeb is walking that back (same article, updated) Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #24
That's nonsense MosheFeingold Jan 2020 #33
Some of the flight data..... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #19
The ADS-B data stopped @ 8000'? Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #23
The investigation will have to play out Dennis, but a local video showed... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #25
Yep, unlikely the NTSB will be invited. Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #26
That plane was shot down, 100%. Calista241 Jan 2020 #31
Unsubstantiated so far discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2020 #35
63 Canadians killed in Iran crash Baclava Jan 2020 #20
Video of plane coming down... brooklynite Jan 2020 #22
Too much of a coincidence, I think. MineralMan Jan 2020 #27
I agree cvoogt Jan 2020 #28
Iran says it will not give black box from crashed airliner to Boeing Eugene Jan 2020 #30
France has a very good crash investigation team, maybe they can get the needed information Baclava Jan 2020 #32
That's because MosheFeingold Jan 2020 #34
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump had it shot down... clementine613 Jan 2020 #36
No Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #37
I wouldn't put _anything_ past His Orangeness. clementine613 Jan 2020 #38
It sounds like the Iranians might be copping to it Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #39
International Civil Aviation rules. NutmegYankee Jan 2020 #40
Yesterday, Iran wasn't going to allow it. Interesting that they changed their minds Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #41
Probably professional civil servants convincing the politicians to do it right. NutmegYankee Jan 2020 #42
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