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Farmer-Rick

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24. I'll never forget that while I was in the Navy, I was instructed to do reports on the privitization
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 10:51 AM
Dec 2019

Of several administrative function on base. Each time my elaborate report would clearly show how privitization would increase the cost of doing that function (Here's a hint: extra layer of management to handle contracts and profits for the executives/owner.)

Each time, my report was edited and adjusted. They then tweaked the opposite conclusions and contracted it out.

Anyway the additional jobs being added are sales clerk jobs, not just because of the season. We are a nation of sales clerks. Reminds me of England in the 1800s when they were a nation of Servants to the filthy rich.

These small often part time jobs replaced once better paying, unionized jobs. These jobs will not give us a vibrant middle class like we use to have. But they will require a second and third job and little pay. Insuring the filthy rich keep even more of our national wealth as they borrow to buy back their stock.

They are just blatantly cooking the books now killaphill Dec 2019 #1
Note that later in the article is this -- BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #2
The people who forecast 180k for the month knew about those 60k FBaggins Dec 2019 #4
I have found the "forecasters" have been off the past couple months BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #8
September was revised up by 13,000 and Oct by 28,000 for a combined +41,000 revision progree Dec 2019 #12
Thank you!!!! BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #14
You're welcome -- I snuck in an "edited to add" : averages for last 3 mos, YTD, and 2018 progree Dec 2019 #20
And thank you for the deeper dive BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #26
I'll see if I can find people complaining of cooked up numbers in February (+56k jobs) and in May progree Dec 2019 #30
It's also seasonal hiring... Hugin Dec 2019 #16
They usually account for seasonal BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #17
Frankly, I doubt any accounting emanating from the current administration's fat figures in the run.. Hugin Dec 2019 #22
And also SoCalNative Dec 2019 #38
I agree with the blatant fudging! Backseat Driver Dec 2019 #27
jobs everywhere here evertonfc Dec 2019 #3
Seasonal hiring for delivering packages bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #5
The numbers are seasonally adjusted nt progree Dec 2019 #6
Nope. The figure is seasonally adjusted FBaggins Dec 2019 #7
Statistics can be tweaked to make them anything you want them to be bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #11
I'll never forget that while I was in the Navy, I was instructed to do reports on the privitization Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #24
Exactly. They cloak their preferences in verbage and numbers, but they tweak the assumptions bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #47
Jobs that dont require a college degree, but DO require technical training. oldsoftie Dec 2019 #21
Seasonal adjustment explainer IronLionZion Dec 2019 #32
Yeah, that's it. In words, anyway. bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #45
I trust ADP's numbers a bit more than BLS IronLionZion Dec 2019 #48
It's Good News for Trump ritapria Dec 2019 #9
Remember he promised 4% - 5% "growth" which we are nowhere near BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #10
You are right ritapria Dec 2019 #18
I think that is the underlying concern BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #19
The other thing - the jobs numbers generally lag the economy ... progree Dec 2019 #23
Yup! BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #25
Great analogy. Those of us who live in Minnesota are really tuned into the seasonal lag progree Dec 2019 #28
Plus BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #29
We're there right now (as progree noted). mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #50
But wait BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #57
Not even close rockfordfile Dec 2019 #31
Good morning. Links to earlier reports: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #13
Good morning and TGIF! BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #15
Two days ago, this was the ADP report: 67,000 House of Roberts Dec 2019 #33
I know the two sets have differed often... maddogesq Dec 2019 #34
Yup. The Household Survey that came out today shows Employment up just 83,000 in November progree Dec 2019 #37
In February: BLS private jobs: +20,000 (and +25,000 overall), ADP: +183,000 private jobs progree Dec 2019 #35
Trump didn't believe these numbers when Obama was prez RussBLib Dec 2019 #36
And everyone here defended the numbers & said Trump was a moron for questioning them MichMan Dec 2019 #39
you're right RussBLib Dec 2019 #40
We called Trump a fucking moron and a lying asswipe when he just made up alternative numbers progree Dec 2019 #42
I remember that too BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #65
Downward revisions: proves they're cooking the books. Upward revisions: yup, same thing progree Dec 2019 #69
.... BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #70
Manufacturing has contracted for four months in a row Politicub Dec 2019 #41
+1 Hugin Dec 2019 #43
True. But manufacturing employment has shrunk over the decades to where it is only about 8.5% of progree Dec 2019 #44
That doesn't change the fact that manufacturing is experiencing a recession Politicub Dec 2019 #46
I don't disagree. I was just saying that there can progree Dec 2019 #49
Apples and oranges, but two days ago, ADP showed a loss of 18,000 in manufacturing. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #51
BLS: manufacturing up 54,000 in November, but as you say, apples and oranges progree Dec 2019 #53
Manufacturing employment is UP mathematic Dec 2019 #59
From the horse's mouth: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #52
When they are good, they are cooked numbers. When they are bad, they prove that progree Dec 2019 #55
You got it. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #56
Here's a change to the data collection that I suspect a lot of people missed: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #54
Don't let the RWingers see that! BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #58
It's proof that the deep-staters are deliberately..... mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #60
!!!!!!!!! BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #64
Yes, it will prove to them (RWers) that libral bureaucrats in the BLS are cooking the numbers nt progree Dec 2019 #61
Yeppers! I do not believe their numbers anymore. Suspect the next 11 months, through November 1... machoneman Dec 2019 #62
Fact is at this point, jobs are not going to be the best selling point against trump. There's plenty Hoyt Dec 2019 #63
The mind-numbing rant, based on a version posted on the first Friday in September 2016: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #66
What about all the people retiring JonLP24 Dec 2019 #67
I think they are considered BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #68
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