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5. Seasonal hiring for delivering packages

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 09:57 AM

Dec 2019

Look at the want ads. 40% must be Uber, UPS helper, and handyman. The rest are for skilled IT, experienced and skilled office personnel, and Safe-Serv restaurant managers.

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Labor market remained strong in November as U.S. economy added 266,000 jobs [View all] BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 OP

They are just blatantly cooking the books now killaphill Dec 2019 #1

Note that later in the article is this -- BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #2

The people who forecast 180k for the month knew about those 60k FBaggins Dec 2019 #4

I have found the "forecasters" have been off the past couple months BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #8

September was revised up by 13,000 and Oct by 28,000 for a combined +41,000 revision progree Dec 2019 #12

Thank you!!!! BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #14

You're welcome -- I snuck in an "edited to add" : averages for last 3 mos, YTD, and 2018 progree Dec 2019 #20

And thank you for the deeper dive BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #26

I'll see if I can find people complaining of cooked up numbers in February (+56k jobs) and in May progree Dec 2019 #30

It's also seasonal hiring... Hugin Dec 2019 #16

They usually account for seasonal BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #17

Frankly, I doubt any accounting emanating from the current administration's fat figures in the run.. Hugin Dec 2019 #22

And also SoCalNative Dec 2019 #38

I agree with the blatant fudging! Backseat Driver Dec 2019 #27

jobs everywhere here evertonfc Dec 2019 #3

Seasonal hiring for delivering packages bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #5

The numbers are seasonally adjusted nt progree Dec 2019 #6

Nope. The figure is seasonally adjusted FBaggins Dec 2019 #7

Statistics can be tweaked to make them anything you want them to be bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #11

I'll never forget that while I was in the Navy, I was instructed to do reports on the privitization Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #24

Exactly. They cloak their preferences in verbage and numbers, but they tweak the assumptions bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #47

Jobs that dont require a college degree, but DO require technical training. oldsoftie Dec 2019 #21

Seasonal adjustment explainer IronLionZion Dec 2019 #32

Yeah, that's it. In words, anyway. bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #45

I trust ADP's numbers a bit more than BLS IronLionZion Dec 2019 #48

It's Good News for Trump ritapria Dec 2019 #9

Remember he promised 4% - 5% "growth" which we are nowhere near BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #10

You are right ritapria Dec 2019 #18

I think that is the underlying concern BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #19

The other thing - the jobs numbers generally lag the economy ... progree Dec 2019 #23

Yup! BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #25

Great analogy. Those of us who live in Minnesota are really tuned into the seasonal lag progree Dec 2019 #28

Plus BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #29

We're there right now (as progree noted). mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #50

But wait BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #57

Not even close rockfordfile Dec 2019 #31

Good morning. Links to earlier reports: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #13

Good morning and TGIF! BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #15

Two days ago, this was the ADP report: 67,000 House of Roberts Dec 2019 #33

I know the two sets have differed often... maddogesq Dec 2019 #34

Yup. The Household Survey that came out today shows Employment up just 83,000 in November progree Dec 2019 #37

In February: BLS private jobs: +20,000 (and +25,000 overall), ADP: +183,000 private jobs progree Dec 2019 #35

Trump didn't believe these numbers when Obama was prez RussBLib Dec 2019 #36

And everyone here defended the numbers & said Trump was a moron for questioning them MichMan Dec 2019 #39

you're right RussBLib Dec 2019 #40

We called Trump a fucking moron and a lying asswipe when he just made up alternative numbers progree Dec 2019 #42

I remember that too BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #65

Downward revisions: proves they're cooking the books. Upward revisions: yup, same thing progree Dec 2019 #69

.... BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #70

Manufacturing has contracted for four months in a row Politicub Dec 2019 #41

+1 Hugin Dec 2019 #43

True. But manufacturing employment has shrunk over the decades to where it is only about 8.5% of progree Dec 2019 #44

That doesn't change the fact that manufacturing is experiencing a recession Politicub Dec 2019 #46

I don't disagree. I was just saying that there can progree Dec 2019 #49

Apples and oranges, but two days ago, ADP showed a loss of 18,000 in manufacturing. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #51

BLS: manufacturing up 54,000 in November, but as you say, apples and oranges progree Dec 2019 #53

Manufacturing employment is UP mathematic Dec 2019 #59

From the horse's mouth: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #52

When they are good, they are cooked numbers. When they are bad, they prove that progree Dec 2019 #55

You got it. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #56

Here's a change to the data collection that I suspect a lot of people missed: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #54

Don't let the RWingers see that! BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #58

It's proof that the deep-staters are deliberately..... mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #60

!!!!!!!!! BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #64

Yes, it will prove to them (RWers) that libral bureaucrats in the BLS are cooking the numbers nt progree Dec 2019 #61

Yeppers! I do not believe their numbers anymore. Suspect the next 11 months, through November 1... machoneman Dec 2019 #62

Fact is at this point, jobs are not going to be the best selling point against trump. There's plenty Hoyt Dec 2019 #63

The mind-numbing rant, based on a version posted on the first Friday in September 2016: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2019 #66

What about all the people retiring JonLP24 Dec 2019 #67

I think they are considered BumRushDaShow Dec 2019 #68