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LiberalLovinLug

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15. That's exactly how this is set up.
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:01 PM
Oct 2019

Because it works. Who doesn't want to pay less in taxes? Especially with all the government suspicion created by RW media.

Democrats are split. Not fatally as some would like to foment, but there is one between the mostly younger (+ Sanders and Warren) progressives who want to push for a big leap forwards and those that think we dare not to not continue to position just to the left of wherever the Republicans go, so as not to scare more conservative D voters. No matter how far right they have to shift themselves to get there. To remain always at a place not radically or leftwardly different, especially in financial policy. A very cautious approach.

They have to go all in either way. There is also a split in belief that the American public would or would not shy away from bold new proposals. I think the public is screaming quietly for big bold ideas (for some on the right it was The Wall) And if, hopefully, Sanders or Warren wins, there has to be an honest discussion about how taxes are a better vehicle towards cheaper, more comprehensive healthcare, than private insurance bills. IMO there is also an appetite with a majority of voters, and those that would vote if there was something to vote FOR like medicare-for-all.

The GOP use the "we will cut taxes....Democrats will raise them" every damn election. And the establishment Dems immediatly go into full defensive mode but they can never compete with how much Republicans will cut taxes (and then cut social services to pay for them). So why not embrace the concept? Be honest. But also be honest about how it will save money for taxpayers overall. And what they get for it. And also how many other things are "socialist" like how they fund the military. Put it into terms people understand, like it is pooling money together to get the best deals. Like they do to buy, say, tanks for the army.

Why? The House is controlled by Democrats who won't pass it. no_hypocrisy Oct 2019 #1
Cheetox may lie to the public... Maxheader Oct 2019 #2
That's exactly how this is set up. LiberalLovinLug Oct 2019 #15
OMFG While I was reading your post BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #20
I believe it LiberalLovinLug Oct 2019 #23
I think the "problem" with many of these approaches BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #26
A political calculation only. No need to actually pass the legislation. paleotn Oct 2019 #24
Promise them candy. So transparently lame ... for thinking people at least. nt KPN Oct 2019 #3
I want a pony. I won't be happy unless he delivers a pony to my house. Vinca Oct 2019 #4
Oh? So the 2017 tax cuts and jobs bill wasn't enough? Is the GOP admitting that they ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #5
Yeah, bring that into the spotlight. Lock him up. Oct 2019 #11
Thats not true. They care when a Democrat is in office at which point they suddenly care cstanleytech Oct 2019 #13
You're right. Lonestarblue Oct 2019 #19
Yeah lets go for two trillion deficits. gibraltar72 Oct 2019 #6
Why stop at 2? Yavin4 Oct 2019 #8
I think there are... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #7
The motivation here is solely political PSPS Oct 2019 #9
I suspect the real motivation is $$$ as in they want to run the whole thing into the ground cstanleytech Oct 2019 #14
Good Point Newest Reality Oct 2019 #16
Crashing the market DENVERPOPS Oct 2019 #12
Because it's working so well after the last tax cuts? IronLionZion Oct 2019 #10
Bribery to get votes. Turbineguy Oct 2019 #17
Maybe the Democrats should propose a tax cut for those of us that got ratf**ked in the last turbinetree Oct 2019 #18
I got a 22 percent tax cut. roamer65 Oct 2019 #21
Well, that makes perfect sense. We only have a trillion dollar debt. Let's cut taxes again. Nitram Oct 2019 #22
Geez, they're dumb. paleotn Oct 2019 #25
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