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22. microsoft destroyed a competitive market and absorbed it into a market it dominated.

Mon Sep 16, 2019, 07:17 PM

Sep 2019

the browser wasn't free, it was folded into the cost of the operating system you paid for either directly or with the computer you bought.

there was no *separate* cost for internet explorer, and given that people had to buy an operating system, that effectively destroyed the browser market.

that's obviously illegal anti-competitive behavior. ultimately consumers suffer when innovative companies are put out of business by greedy monopolies like microsoft.

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Amazon Changed Search Algorithm in Ways That Boost Its Own Products [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2019 OP

Happily, Amazon is one of several very large web biz being investigated now dixiegrrrrl Sep 2019 #1

What are the others? bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #3

is this connected to no longer having net neutrality which I understand lets corporation do what yaesu Sep 2019 #2

No. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2019 #6

techically no, although it's a similar problem in some ways. unblock Sep 2019 #8

They Didn't RobinA Sep 2019 #27

Anything and everything to make Bezos richer. dalton99a Sep 2019 #4

Amazon's own brands don't annoy me nearly as much as the seemingly infinite results tanyev Sep 2019 #5

Yep I've pretty much stopped ordering stuff on Amazon for that reason. Luciferous Sep 2019 #40

It's sad. tanyev Sep 2019 #47

They also treat their warehouse employees like crap. I have a couple of family members who Luciferous Sep 2019 #50

Someone is shocked that a company is promoting its own products? Or that a business pushes PoliticAverse Sep 2019 #7

It's their website. Mosby Sep 2019 #9

if they're not an effective monopoly, and they're upfront that their searches are biased, then ok. unblock Sep 2019 #11

Monopolies are legal. Mosby Sep 2019 #14

Wait, who was ever under any impression the searches were 'fair'? AtheistCrusader Sep 2019 #19

Precisely Sherman A1 Sep 2019 #37

no one should really be "shocked" that companies engage in anti-competitive behavior unblock Sep 2019 #10

I don't think you can make a monopoly case here considering how many other alternatives there are PoliticAverse Sep 2019 #13

Put in more simple terms Mosby Sep 2019 #15

microsoft destroyed a competitive market and absorbed it into a market it dominated. unblock Sep 2019 #22

Did you pay for your browser? metalbot Sep 2019 #52

Not that I can prove, but at least in theory, unblock Sep 2019 #55

No, But I Think RobinA Sep 2019 #29

Relevance is always dermined by the company that's doing the search for you, whether it's Amazon... PoliticAverse Sep 2019 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author onenote Sep 2019 #45

It's their own website... blugbox Sep 2019 #12

If it's boosting it's own products how could that NOT be at the expense of competing products? bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #16

I would just assume that it is inherently not an even playing field. blugbox Sep 2019 #17

When grocery stores run ads and sales featuring their house brands, is that unfair too? onenote Sep 2019 #18

Or endcap displays? Midnight Writer Sep 2019 #21

there's little deception involved and not even whole foods has a monopoly. yet. unblock Sep 2019 #23

And who believes Amazon.com is a level playing field for Amazon's competitors? Rainbow Droid Sep 2019 #20

oh that could be because amazon itself said this quite a lot in the early days. unblock Sep 2019 #24

I Agree RobinA Sep 2019 #30

Tell Me About It!!!!! RobinA Sep 2019 #25

Is every fucking thing in this world rigged now njhoneybadger Sep 2019 #26

Yes. RobinA Sep 2019 #31

This njhoneybadger Sep 2019 #34

she has a plan for that. i saw this months ago thanks to warren. Kurt V. Sep 2019 #28

I NEVER use Amazon. Bad for the economy. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #32

I also stopped using Amazon a few years ago. athena Sep 2019 #43

+1! oldsoftie Sep 2019 #48

To be fair PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #35

i have searched other sites for same products and found there are often better deals JI7 Sep 2019 #36

+1. And Amazon commingles genuine brand-name products with Chinese counterfeits dalton99a Sep 2019 #42

Why is this a surprise? melm00se Sep 2019 #38

I used to love my Amazon prime but I use it less and less because of crap like this. Luciferous Sep 2019 #39

Amazon, Twitter. Facebook...they're all evil. jcmaine72 Sep 2019 #41

And governments the world over are trying to stop us from using cash too. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #49

Surprising who? Brainfodder Sep 2019 #44

I use Amazon all the time. onenote Sep 2019 #46

I have a merchant account matt819 Sep 2019 #51

Amazon isn't a public utility, why the fuck do people expect it to act like one? X_Digger Sep 2019 #53

Amazon is nonsense sometimes. The search is completely skewed JDC Sep 2019 #54