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Katashi_itto

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92. yes, thats true. but Iranian tactics have improved
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 05:15 PM
Sep 2012

Well, perhaps IF mines is ALL Iran has and IF they just roll over and give up immediately.

But what if - a much more likely scenario - they have supersonic anti-ship missiles dug into hidden bunkers all along their side of the Straights of Hormuz and able to hit any point within the Straights within less than one minute?

Even US carriers wouldn't be able to live on that waterway.

And then there are strikes against Saudi oil installations.

There are multiple critical facilities where a single hit would close down Saudi exports for a long time.

What price oil then?

It is delusional to imagine that anyone - and that includes the Israelis - would win from a middle east conflagration.

Another article with some more details bananas Sep 2012 #1
He's so full of s**t zellie Sep 2012 #2
Twit, all they have to do is mine the straits of Hormuz and oil comes to a standstill Katashi_itto Sep 2012 #5
Ooooo zellie Sep 2012 #17
I think you should be more concerned that any rational person on the face of the earth sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #51
Who said he was rational? Have you listened to him speak? Katashi_itto Sep 2012 #90
Dear twit, you need to learn to look at the long game plan. Katashi_itto Sep 2012 #91
That will lead to a protracted war Sterling Sep 2012 #93
It didn't happen during the Iran-Iraq War OnlinePoker Sep 2012 #57
yes, thats true. but Iranian tactics have improved Katashi_itto Sep 2012 #92
Not to mention Caretha Sep 2012 #118
Good Point! Katashi_itto Sep 2012 #121
Russia doesn't have that kind of miltary power anymore hack89 Sep 2012 #130
aren't they building a pipeline mitchtv Sep 2012 #124
Yes. However that simply makes another static target. Katashi_itto Sep 2012 #129
Why do they talk so foolish? Cynicus Emeritus Sep 2012 #3
They're trying to provoke an attack. bananas Sep 2012 #4
Yes, wearing those short skirts and all. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #12
Uh huh. Bombastic posturing till a big boy says NO. aquart Sep 2012 #28
They will not attack Iran on the ground. Sterling Sep 2012 #94
Iran is trying to provoke Israel and the U.S. into attacking? ronnie624 Sep 2012 #29
"There are people in Iran who would profit from an attack, even though no one would admit it." bananas Sep 2012 #97
Are the ones who will profit establishing Iranian policy? ronnie624 Sep 2012 #98
Yes, see post #8 (in this thread). bananas Sep 2012 #99
Also from your link: ronnie624 Sep 2012 #105
Regarding Pakistan bananas Sep 2012 #102
What I and most of the world sees is them responding to the never ending provocation sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #52
But somehow these relative handful of neocons keep gaining influence at the Cynicus Emeritus Sep 2012 #55
There is a lot of inflammatory rhetoric on BOTH sides, IMO. BlueMTexpat Sep 2012 #7
And which side is the one threatening an actual attack? Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #84
Na they are just building nukes Missycim Sep 2012 #106
There is a difference between nuclear energy and nuclear weapons. BlueMTexpat Sep 2012 #110
They are hiding somthing(Iran) why build a peaceful nuke program Missycim Sep 2012 #114
So the mere fact that Israel hasn't signed the NPT BlueMTexpat Sep 2012 #116
And being surrounded on all sides by U.S. forces (look at a map) Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #113
We've got nukes. Is THAT provocation? FiveGoodMen Sep 2012 #123
Remember all the protests about the stolen election? bananas Sep 2012 #8
The people of Iran want to make their own changes RandiFan1290 Sep 2012 #11
The Iranian government doesn't feel that way. nt bananas Sep 2012 #14
Would argue Netanyahu could have a similar motivation in starting a war. Ash_F Sep 2012 #71
+1000 nt adigal Sep 2012 #49
Yawn... iandhr Sep 2012 #6
Apparently forgetting how the several surprise attacks the arabs made on Israel turned out? panzerfaust Sep 2012 #9
What "attack" is this picture from? cpwm17 Sep 2012 #19
Nice, people are denying that 1973 happened now. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #20
Egypt was trying to expel Israel from Egyptian territory cpwm17 Sep 2012 #25
So why was Syria involved? Missycim Sep 2012 #107
"Israel has consistently been the aggressor" oberliner Sep 2012 #21
It was an unattributed photo cpwm17 Sep 2012 #26
OK oberliner Sep 2012 #27
Unfortunately zellie Sep 2012 #30
Sweetly understated, Oberliner. Kudos to you for restraint in the face of twisted facts. nt JudyM Sep 2012 #82
"Israel has consistently been the aggressor" zellie Sep 2012 #23
That was from 1973 nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #45
Iran has never fought in a war against Israel Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #100
Are you kidding? Missycim Sep 2012 #108
I disagree as do most warplanners Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #109
It wouldn't so much "lose" as "not win" Scootaloo Sep 2012 #127
There has been an ongoing war via proxies for decades hack89 Sep 2012 #131
By that same token Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #136
"Iran has been flagrantly violating the NPT anyway." Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #10
The IAEA. nt bananas Sep 2012 #16
"The IAEA" Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #31
Not cooperating is a violation. bananas Sep 2012 #38
Funny how Israel gets to do what it wants without inspections,...ain't it... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #48
Nope, only the IAEA has the legal authority... Ash_F Sep 2012 #70
The IAEA did. nt bananas Sep 2012 #74
Wrong. Here is their latest resolution Ash_F Sep 2012 #76
Someone once told me there was no Vietnam War. bananas Sep 2012 #95
Laws matter Ash_F Sep 2012 #119
IAEA: Iran broke law by not revealing nuclear facility bananas Sep 2012 #122
Sorry Bananas, the law still says no breach of treaty. Ash_F Sep 2012 #125
So you are making the argument "there was no Vietnam war because Congress never declared war". bananas Sep 2012 #134
"failure to comply with an applicable IAEA safeguards agreement is a violation of the NPT" bananas Sep 2012 #135
Iran has done more than any nation in history to comply with the NPT Prometheus Bound Sep 2012 #117
IAEA resolution says Iran "continues to defy the requirements and obligations" including enrichment bananas Sep 2012 #41
What a shock. zellie Sep 2012 #42
IAEA says Iran's enrichment activities violate their NPT agreements bananas Sep 2012 #43
Enrichment is not a violation. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #47
There are many restrictions on enrichment, and Iran is violating them. bananas Sep 2012 #66
The "safeguards" are to prevent theft as well. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #78
Example: South Korea violated the NPT by using a prohibited enrichment technology and lying about it bananas Sep 2012 #73
North Korea can do what it wants,.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #79
Armada of British naval power massing in the Gulf as Israel prepares an Iran strike slackmaster Sep 2012 #13
Good.. zellie Sep 2012 #15
Go get your war on. Have fun. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #33
Not my war. zellie Sep 2012 #37
We never attacked Germany and Japan Jennicut Sep 2012 #111
I can't believe a democrat is cheerleading this war to be adigal Sep 2012 #50
Nothing is fucked. There isn't going to be any war. It's all just a game. slackmaster Sep 2012 #86
Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari sounds much like Hillary Clinton cpwm17 Sep 2012 #18
Oddly unconcerned about the many Palestinians that would die in the process oberliner Sep 2012 #22
Glad you asked zellie Sep 2012 #24
I don't hear the Israelis worrying about how many Iranians they're going to kill, either. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #32
Many don't want a war at all, unless Iran were to strike first. nt AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #34
True ... zellie Sep 2012 #35
And many Iranians don't want war at all unless Israel strikes first. Marrah_G Sep 2012 #40
They talk about destroying the nuclear facilities oberliner Sep 2012 #56
Well, then tell Netanyahu to stop trying to start a war. Once it starts, no one is going to sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #53
Or you could tell Iran to take a pass on going down the nuclear road oberliner Sep 2012 #54
And risk ending up like Gaddafi? Dokkie Sep 2012 #58
Yes, exactly! oberliner Sep 2012 #59
Biggest steps towards peace? Dokkie Sep 2012 #61
Absolutely oberliner Sep 2012 #62
Syria is their ally for god sake Dokkie Sep 2012 #63
Of course oberliner Sep 2012 #65
Put yourself in their shoes Dokkie Sep 2012 #67
That's what I am doing oberliner Sep 2012 #68
Or we could tell the US, Israel, Pakistan and all the other countries who have nukes to sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #87
I agree with a lot of your points oberliner Sep 2012 #88
Iranians are an intelligent people. They are not happy with their system of government sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #89
MEMORIES: Israel To U.S.: Don't Delay Iraq Attack Purveyor Sep 2012 #83
All Wars are Ugly elbloggoZY27 Sep 2012 #36
In the past "the destruction of Israel" has meant undoing the legal state of Israel and returning nanabugg Sep 2012 #39
And they say the same about Iran nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #44
All hot air treestar Sep 2012 #46
Go ahead and be the first country to use nuclear weapons nuclear weapons to start a war 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #60
I've seen this before. sofa king Sep 2012 #64
+1 nt Javaman Sep 2012 #69
LOL! And well-written. nt Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #115
I'm starting to think maybe these two should just get it on and over with.. snooper2 Sep 2012 #72
If Israel attacks first, Iran's just saying they'll punch back. mainer Sep 2012 #75
Netanyahu is NOT our friend or Israel's Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2012 #85
Well, that's why mr. Bibbles is campaigning in the US Scootaloo Sep 2012 #128
No, it is not okay ann--- Sep 2012 #104
WTF do we expect Iran to say? -- Oh, we are sorry, we'll immediately stand down and await your war Hoyt Sep 2012 #77
Exactly! ann--- Sep 2012 #103
Wow ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #80
"Stupid Iranians......talk is cheap"-----USA thelordofhell Sep 2012 #81
If Israel strikes Iran -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 #96
That's exactly the response ann--- Sep 2012 #101
Baghdad Bob! Good to see you found work! JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2012 #112
we have invaded countries on either side of them and Israel has hundreds of nukes. yurbud Sep 2012 #120
Clearly, Iran is stating they will not start or instigate a war... Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #126
Iran is too busy pouring men and weapons into Syria hack89 Sep 2012 #132
How is that different from the U.S Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #133
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