The Israeli flag implies ISRAEL is trying to silence them, which is exactly what happened. (Reply #82)

In the discussion thread: Jerry Nadler condemns 'vile' cartoon shared by Rashida Tlaib along with Trump's 'disloyal' Jews jibe [View all]

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Mon Aug 26, 2019, 07:30 PM

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82. The Israeli flag implies ISRAEL is trying to silence them, which is exactly what happened.

When will we stop conflating criticism of Israeli government with criticism of Jewish people?

It's ok to criticize:

Israeli government
Lobbyists who lobby on behalf of the Israeli government's interests
Organizations, politicians and countries that ignore the Israeli governments appalling acts and behaviors.

And its a total disingenuous tactic of people who don't want that criticism to get here to brand it anti-jewish.

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85 replies	Author	Time	Post
Jerry Nadler condemns 'vile' cartoon shared by Rashida Tlaib along with Trump's 'disloyal' Jews jibe [View all]	brooklynite	Aug 2019	OP
Isn't that what Trump and Netanyahu did	exboyfil	Aug 2019	#1
Exactly	sandensea	Aug 2019	#6
Trump cannot deny entry to Israel to any one	question everything	Aug 2019	#25
So it's the cartoonist, not the cartoon?	BeyondGeography	Aug 2019	#2
The arms in blue sleeves with the star of david in the middle is portraying the Israeli flag.	Mosby	Aug 2019	#22
It was Israel that they were banned from visiting, after Trump suggested it	muriel_volestrangler	Aug 2019	#35
There were weeks of backstory.	Igel	Aug 2019	#62
It's Israel that is being represented in the cartoon.	BuddhaGirl	Aug 2019	#37
Demonizing the one Jewish country in the world is Antisemitic.	Mosby	Aug 2019	#54
I disagree	BuddhaGirl	Aug 2019	#68
Criticizing Israel is not automatically anti-Semitic.	yardwork	Aug 2019	#75
So is the issue the use of the Star of David? I'm pretty sure I've seen Christian crosses	pnwmom	Aug 2019	#3
trump isn't Jewish. why include the star of David ?	JI7	Aug 2019	#14
Because the issue for both men is the women's speaking out on Israel. n/t	pnwmom	Aug 2019	#15
Chrisitan crosses have never been used to incite mobs to murder Christians	question everything	Aug 2019	#26
This cartoon isn't an effort to incite mobs to murder anyone.	pnwmom	Aug 2019	#29
The KKK was and is Anti-Catholic, it has always been Protestant...	Thomas Hurt	Aug 2019	#77
Christian crosses have been burned and used to incite mobs to murder AfAms who were Christian.	LanternWaste	Aug 2019	#84
Maybe I'm missing something...	MontanaMama	Aug 2019	#4
Ditto	elleng	Aug 2019	#5
And why would Jerry be	MontanaMama	Aug 2019	#7
I agree.	elleng	Aug 2019	#8
That's it.	MontanaMama	Aug 2019	#9
We're "Both-Siding" Ourselves Now.	jayfish	Aug 2019	#12
It's vile to conservative snowflakes who can't stand it if someone doesn't kiss Trump's ass 100%.	Initech	Aug 2019	#10
Nadler is a conservative snowflake? (nt)	stopdiggin	Aug 2019	#31
Yes.	question everything	Aug 2019	#27
I'd call it not so much vile as	Igel	Aug 2019	#63
+1	treestar	Aug 2019	#64
"Vile Underlying Message"?	DallasNE	Aug 2019	#11
The blue arms plus the Star of David equal Israeli flag	Grokenstein	Aug 2019	#34
Exactly. The Star of David implies Jews were trying to silence them, which is dishonest at best	still_one	Aug 2019	#41
Yes, American Jews, whom Israeli Jews wish would not meddle in their affairs. Israel has banned	emmaverybo	Aug 2019	#42
Finkelstein is a holocaust denier. I don't care if he is Jewish, Kapo's we're Jews also	still_one	Aug 2019	#43
Well, news to me. Both parents were in concentration camps. If that is true, then certainly	emmaverybo	Aug 2019	#44
THis has nothing to do with his parents. He maintains that Jews only use the holocaust as a money	still_one	Aug 2019	#45
Sad. He has deep problems n/m	RhodeIslandOne	Aug 2019	#73
No. He has been defamed as a holocaust denier because he has accused Israel of exploiting	emmaverybo	Aug 2019	#46
He does in a devious way by minimizing it. I am not going to debate this discussion with you	still_one	Aug 2019	#47
Take your marbles and go home. You absolutely can not show that Finkelstein denies the holocaust.	emmaverybo	Aug 2019	#48
Ya got the last word	still_one	Aug 2019	#49
Netanyahu is Jewish and the leader of Israel. Not all Jews were trying to ban them,	pnwmom	Aug 2019	#52
So. What does Netanyahu being Jewish have to do with his attrocious policies?	still_one	Aug 2019	#55
Nothing. The imagery in the cartoon comes from the Israeli flag.	pnwmom	Aug 2019	#57
The Israeli flag implies ISRAEL is trying to silence them, which is exactly what happened.	FreeLookMode	Aug 2019	#82
Israel barred two American members of Congress from coming to Israel to speak.	pnwmom	Aug 2019	#51
The Star of David is saying Jews, Trump, and Netenyahu are trying to silence them. American Jews	still_one	Aug 2019	#39
Using of the Star of David isn't just political, i.e. Israel as a nation today. It's use in Nazi	24601	Aug 2019	#74
I know. It is a dog whistle that some seem so willing to ignore	still_one	Aug 2019	#76
it's offensive becsuse it makes it seem like jews are trying	JI7	Aug 2019	#13
Netanyahu banned them, and then told one she could only come if she didn't speak.	pnwmom	Aug 2019	#16
So It Is The Source Of The Message	DallasNE	Aug 2019	#23
The cartoon isn't from some holocaust cartoon contest...	SergeStorms	Aug 2019	#24
Latuff is a "Palestinians can do no wrong" asshole.	Archae	Aug 2019	#17
Do you really think this is worth igniting another intraparty public feud?	BeyondGeography	Aug 2019	#19
She should know better and do better	The Mouth	Aug 2019	#21
What is the offensive imagery? Picturing Netanyahu in a cartoon? I'm sure I've seen crosses	pnwmom	Aug 2019	#50
There is nothing wrong with promulgating antisemitism-tinged cartoons because...	JudyM	Aug 2019	#28
Latuff is a well-known judeophob, and it's simply not believable Tlaib isn't aware of that. If she..	Marengo	Aug 2019	#30
Taliab needs to exercise better judgement	stopdiggin	Aug 2019	#33
Fair enough	BeyondGeography	Aug 2019	#53
There are Israel can do no wrong people too	treestar	Aug 2019	#66
Yes there are. BUT...	Archae	Aug 2019	#67
So it sounds like the Palestinians are all bad people	treestar	Aug 2019	#69
I never said that!	Archae	Aug 2019	#70
It's time you stopped blaming them all	treestar	Aug 2019	#71
+1	BuddhaGirl	Aug 2019	#72
Agreed.	LuvNewcastle	Aug 2019	#78
+1	Bettie	Aug 2019	#80
I guess the Star of David is the problem (?)	Mike 03	Aug 2019	#18
This message was self-deleted by its author	Mosby	Aug 2019	#20
STFU, Nadler	matt819	Aug 2019	#32
100% that was great, on virtually every point! (nt)	stopdiggin	Aug 2019	#36
Thank you	BeyondGeography	Aug 2019	#38
My thoughts as well	bluestarone	Aug 2019	#40
Great rant!	yardwork	Aug 2019	#60
Thank you.	Owl	Aug 2019	#79
Well said	Bettie	Aug 2019	#81
So if you criticize a country's policies your some kind of racist	njhoneybadger	Aug 2019	#56
Even more so when the country being criticized is Israel	Devil Child	Aug 2019	#59
Yes, anti-semitism seems to be equivalent	treestar	Aug 2019	#65
Tlaib had the high ground after what happened with the trip to Israel. She should have kept it.	Chemisse	Aug 2019	#58
What am I missing here?	Schmice3	Aug 2019	#61
A cartoon that spells out the flag of Israel is a perfect and apt criticism of Israeli government	FreeLookMode	Aug 2019	#83
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Aug 2019	#85

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