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Jedi Guy

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27. Part of the problem is that medical science can't really "measure" pain.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:57 AM
Jul 2019

It's basically just "a distressing feeling caused by intense or damaging stimuli." We know that some conditions cause certain types of pain, which are potentially useful in diagnosing the issue, but it's really hard to get an objective measure of pain.

As an example of how subjective pain can be, I carried a kidney stone around for six months because they were hoping it'd pass without requiring surgery, and I was working full-time for the entire duration. A friend of mine got a kidney stone and was, for all intents and purposes, totally out of commission for two weeks. I was taking Vicodin and able to function, though I definitely was not a happy camper. He was taking Percocet, a stronger pain med, and he was still unable to function. Same condition, very different responses to the pain it caused.

The only somewhat-objective measure of pain that I've ever heard of is fMRI (functional magnetic resonance imaging), which isn't exactly practical to use every time someone comes in and complains of pain. Apart from that, physiological responses such as blood pressure, heart rate, and the like can be an indication of whether or not someone is shamming or exaggerating, but those are also affected by pain tolerance.

The best solution to the present issue would be to find/create a medication that effectively kills pain but has no addictive component. The problem is that drug companies have no incentive to do so, because when your medications are effective and addictive, you have a golden goose. For that reason, I'm not holding my breath regarding a breakthrough pain med anytime soon.

"60 Minutes" had a segment Scarsdale Jul 2019 #1
You are 100% right True Blue American Jul 2019 #5
and then there are those of us who continue working despite critical illnesses demtenjeep Jul 2019 #30
That is what really True Blue American Jul 2019 #32
A hierarchy of corrupt conspirators, madaboutharry Jul 2019 #2
Jackson County True Blue American Jul 2019 #3
Systemic corruption mostly in areas under economic stress. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2019 #7
Absolutely ck4829 Jul 2019 #25
Indeed ck4829 Jul 2019 #24
wasn't it the other way around ie they were "sucking down" vast quantities Blues Heron Jul 2019 #4
Pill pushers True Blue American Jul 2019 #6
Now, it's very difficult for patients who need the drugs to get them. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2019 #8
The one Pharmacy in West Virginia True Blue American Jul 2019 #11
Instead of rounding up True Blue American Jul 2019 #12
I have experienced this and so have my friends and family. BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #15
exactly right...I have severe crohn's disease and now diabetes demtenjeep Jul 2019 #31
It seems your case is a good example of the good intention of law... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2019 #37
Right ck4829 Jul 2019 #23
Why aren't GOP members of Congress accountable? duforsure Jul 2019 #9
Good question ck4829 Jul 2019 #22
The GOP in congress that pushed for FDA approval? hughee99 Jul 2019 #35
In my small town, Kentucky Bayard Jul 2019 #10
There's a number of serious problems that are ingrained in the system.... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2019 #13
Trump country? Drugs and SSI keithbvadu2 Jul 2019 #14
I dont understand how patients find tnese doctors who over-precribe. VarryOn Jul 2019 #16
Just as with any profession - including preachers - there's always a small percentage.... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2019 #19
Part of the problem is that medical science can't really "measure" pain. Jedi Guy Jul 2019 #27
Thanks and I'm glad you got my point. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2019 #29
That is what the Dentist gave me True Blue American Jul 2019 #33
Ain't capitalism great! mountain grammy Jul 2019 #17
Yes, Grammy and it's killing us all. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2019 #18
+1 ck4829 Jul 2019 #21
Sounds like quite the drug lord ck4829 Jul 2019 #20
Isn't free market unrestrained capitalism grand ? magicarpet Jul 2019 #26
I was watching a German mystery series recently (Tatort - Borowski on Mhz). Turbineguy Jul 2019 #28
K&R. Sometimes it seems like a feature of our society rather than a flaw. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2019 #34
Then by pretending that addition is actually "free will" Turbineguy Jul 2019 #36
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