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In reply to the discussion: Condom used as evidence in Assange sex case 'does not contain his DNA' [View all]Response to treestar (Reply #66)
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Condom used as evidence in Assange sex case 'does not contain his DNA' [View all]
dipsydoodle
Sep 2012
OP
How can they rule out his DNA on a condom and "think" it's on another if they dont have his
rhett o rick
Sep 2012
#174
No--it sounds like simple logic--you can't conclusively match anyone before you
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#320
I bet they are very "anxious" to get him in prison but you are probably right about
rhett o rick
Sep 2012
#228
The Daily Mail. Can't write a proper fucking headline if its life depended on it.
joshcryer
Sep 2012
#252
Oh, please. He's a certifiable narcissist and he attracts hero-worshippers like flies.
pnwmom
Sep 2012
#301
Oh, I don't know. They could always use the Romney tactic: "He raped me retroactively."
1monster
Sep 2012
#69
But was the other condom also broken? The quote from the article does not state that.
JDPriestly
Sep 2012
#22
Got to call you on that one (as you and other have been called on repeatedly): Assange was permitted
1monster
Sep 2012
#71
Well, 'divided' sort of implies there is no world-wide conspiracy to 'get' him then.
randome
Sep 2012
#213
Not true--his own lawyer testified to the fact that Mr. Assange left the country the
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#83
Well, pretty much so. The only DNA evidence found was a tiny spot of mitochondrial DNA
1monster
Sep 2012
#99
Could there be unnamed evidence on it that links it to Assange...say fingerprints?
HereSince1628
Sep 2012
#15
Yes but the link is about a defense report, might they only point to evidence that helps their case
HereSince1628
Sep 2012
#232
Try again. No chromosomal DNA at all. Only a speck of mitochrdrial DNA which comes only
1monster
Sep 2012
#103
I'm sorry--but that's from wikileaks, which is hardly neutral. Do you have any actual court
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#125
This is, of course, a comment from Assange's lawyers, and we should not expect
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#13
No: regardless of any of your theorizing, it's merely a claim from Assange's lawyers, and
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#32
Not only that, but of course no conclusive matching can happen until Assange gives a DNA
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#59
" it is entirely inappropriate to attempt to try such a case in on a public bulletin board"
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2012
#21
I have never taken any stand on Assange's guilt or innocence with regard to the Swedish accusations
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#31
Yes you have. You've been trying to convince everyone of his guilt on every thread.
Alexander
Sep 2012
#70
Provide a link showing I said he was guilty of the Swedish accusations. Or apologize.
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#107
You couldn't find the requested link, could you? That's cuz it doesn't exist.
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#312
You are assuming that prosecutors don't break rules and turn wreckless for their own success...
GetRidOfThem
Sep 2012
#36
I'm not assuming anything about the prosecutors: if they have a weak case and overreach,
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#43
I've always taken the PoV that the Swedish allegations should be handled by the Swedish system
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#109
"Lawyers for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange have revealed ... " etc etc. "The report, which has
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#113
Not on the links I provided... The links I provided included the Swedish lab reports.
1monster
Sep 2012
#119
Not buying it -- cuz Wikileaks has a history of forgery. He can go clear it up in Sweden
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#135
But they can't conclusively match or not match his DNA until they have a sample,
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#64
Please provide a link that backs up your statement that he fled the day before he
1monster
Sep 2012
#79
Uh huh. Which is why I asked for specific pages on his 28 page link. S/He gave me three pages and
1monster
Sep 2012
#123
pbfft! you're just jealous that i actually give links that support my arguments
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#170
There's not a link from you anywhere in the thread yet. I've provided various links
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#294
There's not a link from you anywhere in the thread yet. I've provided various links
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#306
I read the three pages you said supported your conclusions. They don't support your
1monster
Sep 2012
#133
Upthread, you make the claim that mitochondria only exist in our hair and fingernails.
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#139
Nice gossip link from the Daily Mail, citing snark from unnamed sources.
Comrade Grumpy
Sep 2012
#96
I'm sure hundreds of women would love to have babies with him. So the allegation is that he wanted t
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#187
I know. how often do really intellegent, really rich men run around trying to get women pregnant?
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#190
Oh, right! That's why he skipped Sweden while the authorities were talking to his lawyer to arrange
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#305
Is there any viable PROOF that the US is behind it, or is this just paranoid theory?
George II
Sep 2012
#327
That's an investigation into US-Australian intelligence exchanges, not rape in Sweden
George II
Sep 2012
#333
Wrong, it's an investigation of Assange's alleged wrongdoing against the US...
AntiFascist
Sep 2012
#337
I have read about it, but why don't you enlighten me instead of insulting me?
George II
Sep 2012
#56
Sweden is a highly subordinate client state, and close ally to the U.S. government.
ronnie624
Sep 2012
#118
Because the evidence clears it up for him, therefore not requiring his traveling to another country?
Occulus
Sep 2012
#50
He's lost twice in Swedish court and four times, over a year and a half, in UK court
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#138
It's too bad if Assange has psychotic delusions, but the rest of us are not obliged to believe them
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#307
"If Assange has psychotic delusions, then the rest of us are not obliged to believe them"
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#311
His lawyers had their chance to argue that in court -- but they decided it was too crackpot
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#141
Actually, one of Assange's own witnesses told the court that onward-extradition was not possible
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#148
He's lost twice in Swedish court and four times, over a year and a half, in UK court
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#197
Population of London: 8+ million. Number of Londoners who turned out for Assange's balcony speech:
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#250
You really spend a lot of time disliking Julian Assange. Do you know him personally?
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#251
"... There was at one stage a suggestion that Mr Assange could be extradited to the USA
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#195
or they didn't argue it because there is no case, hence no need. Did you know thaqt both women bragg
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#243
If there's no good case against him in Sweden, he'll be quickly cleared to go his merry way
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#275
... The Swedish court system is characterized by foreseeability, fairness, humanism
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#309
Bradley Manning was tortured. The good that julian did for the entire world is huge. It really
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#198
"... David Coombs, a lawyer for Pfc. Bradley Manning, ... said Manning was confined in such a way
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#207
BTW, the accusations are not "the condom broke." One of the accusations is rape
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#208
No there is not a rape accusation. there is a sexual misconduct accusation, and
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#237
... The position with offence 4 is different. This is an allegation of rape. The framework list
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#246
There was no rape period. That woman bragged in writing about the event, and subsequently had sex
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#248
I expect the Swedish justice system can sort it out better than we can
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#273
Why did she go back and sleep with him again several nights later if there was a problem?
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#249
I expect the Swedish justice system can sort it out better than we can
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#274
Actually there is not more than that. Both women put in wriitng how happy they were that they had se
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#247
espeically when you find out that the second woman subsequently went back to see him and had sex aga
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#238
So no DNA on one condom (Ms. A) But DNA on another condom (Ms. W) and both torn?
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#51
Well, I hardly expect the defense to admit to that. We will have to wait until Assange gives a DNA
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#62
I sincerely doubt he's supporting four children. But I bet Sweden has interviewed the
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#90
This article is nothing more than gossip. Let's hear from the mothers of these alledged children.
1monster
Sep 2012
#85
Sorry. I forgot the "sarcasm" tag. No. Even were it true, it's not my business nor yours.
1monster
Sep 2012
#131
Subheadline: "But its thought another condom, submitted by the second alleged victim, does"
pnwmom
Sep 2012
#130
Oh--even better--the Daily Mail is now an approved source for Assange info.
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#144
True. But if his supporters think it's a credible source, I'm willing to explore
msanthrope
Sep 2012
#157
So he was trying to forcibly impregnate those women with someone else's DNA?
4th law of robotics
Sep 2012
#175
There are far too many assumptions in your post with nothing to support them.
ronnie624
Sep 2012
#331
Thanks for the link, but I am internet-challenged and can't watch videos (no hi speed connection
Dems to Win
Sep 2012
#339
up next Assange is identified as the guy in the rain coat on the grassy knoll.
grantcart
Sep 2012
#209
It's too bad if Assange has psychotic delusions, but the rest of us are not obliged to believe them
struggle4progress
Sep 2012
#221
No. If this was a CIA op from the beginning, it would be a strong rape case. Good evidence, etc
Dems to Win
Sep 2012
#230
Wasn't one of his accusers a former NGO worker with organizational ties to the CIA?
NoodleyAppendage
Sep 2012
#231
Everybody read the link posted by noodley! Both women boasted in writing after sex with Assange. On
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#242
If either woman was concocting a rape trap, they would have acted like a 'legitimate rape' victim
Dems to Win
Sep 2012
#263
This is what sabrina's been saying from the beginning! But this info was disappeared online
riderinthestorm
Sep 2012
#253
But producing a condom with his DNA in it, weakens her case severely, if not entirely.
riderinthestorm
Sep 2012
#259
I haven't seen anything that demonstrates the women themselves are pursuing charges
riderinthestorm
Sep 2012
#268