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53. When the fear of retaliation is used to elicit cooperation during police investigations...

Reply to 4th law of robotics (Reply #43)

Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:49 PM

Sep 2012

all the time, I don't like the fact that my tax dollars are "protecting" this guy either. Close surveillance of him, would be appropriate though in this case.

There used to be an equalizer withing the 1st amendment; the fear of ostracization from the community at large acted as a check on outlandish speech. We do it here with our jury system.

And I don't know of any pro- or anti- choice advocates who undermine and threaten national security with offensive speech.

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Police Sent to California Home of "Innocence of Muslims" Producer (for protection) [View all] LeighAnn Sep 2012 OP

No mention of his ethnic background oberliner Sep 2012 #1

He's a Coptic Christian. He not only hurt Americans, he made life more difficult for alfredo Sep 2012 #12

And the MSM made life more difficult for Jews/Israelis living everywhere oberliner Sep 2012 #60

Bacile first claimed to be Israeli. Two sources should be the minimum. alfredo Sep 2012 #136

Is he Mittwits twin? goclark Sep 2012 #139

Policy advisor alfredo Sep 2012 #145

Is he an Egyptian Copt again? It's hard to keep up. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #13

I know some who are fine people, wouldn't do this. Most peaceful and forgiving I've ever met. freshwest Sep 2012 #30

Only oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #40

I mean the Obama is a Muslim thing. The Clarion Fund pushed films to scare people prior to 2008. freshwest Sep 2012 #85

The reporting on this has been very sloppy oberliner Sep 2012 #62

The reporting on a number of things surrounding this incident has been sloppy azurnoir Sep 2012 #99

Yes indeed oberliner Sep 2012 #102

I have read that in Libya at least terrorists used the protests as a cover azurnoir Sep 2012 #110

I'm curious. Who is this guy? Where did he come from? Who are his associates? Laurian Sep 2012 #16

And where did he get his funding? harun Sep 2012 #47

Funding for what? oberliner Sep 2012 #63

Cost him at least $500 to lie to the actress about what it was Amonester Sep 2012 #79

Yeah oberliner Sep 2012 #104

This is a little misinformed heliarc Oct 2012 #147

Thanks for sharing oberliner Oct 2012 #148

*Mission Accomplished* LeighAnn Sep 2012 #2

oh good, now taxpayers are footing the bill to protect this filth.. frylock Sep 2012 #3

I'm thinking this "protection" is more of Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #18

+100 HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #76

Oh yeah - the "Sherrif Andy" approach Mopar151 Sep 2012 #84

Does it really offend you that our tax dollars go in part to prevent people from being murdered 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #43

You're just being rational - I'm not there yet radhika Sep 2012 #50

When the fear of retaliation is used to elicit cooperation during police investigations... Blue State Bandit Sep 2012 #53

They police aren't there to protect him from being ostracized 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #56

I still say the police are preventing him from fleeing Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #87

As a reformed conTARD, bigot, Racist asshole myself......... kooljerk666 Sep 2012 #96

Well put. Blue State Bandit Sep 2012 #114

ConTARD? Really? Let's be better than those who are obsessed with "libtard". alp227 Sep 2012 #119

Is it right that people should be silenced by threats of violence? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #124

I keep my mouth shut cause I know what "conseratives" are all about. kooljerk666 Sep 2012 #130

Interesting 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #131

I am not in favor of it, it is just the way it is............. kooljerk666 Sep 2012 #133

"it's just the way it is" 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #134

His "free speech" is hate speech Politicalboi Sep 2012 #57

Your Humanity Missycim Sep 2012 #69

your strawmen are piling up like cordwood.. frylock Sep 2012 #88

Oh sorry I thought I was commenting on Missycim Sep 2012 #109

clearly you were mistaken.. frylock Sep 2012 #116

All speech is hate-speech to someone 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #72

Sorry, "hate speech" is real and has been defined. BlueMTexpat Sep 2012 #86

it amazes me that you have to inform people of this.. frylock Sep 2012 #89

Like you, I find it surprising that so many people BlueMTexpat Sep 2012 #93

That's from a report 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #121

let me introduce you to Walter Chaplinsky.. frylock Sep 2012 #129

Let me introduce you to the entirety of US law since 1941 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #132

I couldn't care less about the international rule 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #120

You obviously did not read or understand my whole post. BlueMTexpat Sep 2012 #127

Does the US currently punish hate-speech 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #128

What about your hate speech intent on fomenting violence? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2012 #80

no what offends me is people hiding behind the skirt of 1A to avoid personal responsibility.. frylock Sep 2012 #73

Personal responsibility in this case is defined as what exactly? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #75

i don't have all day to deal with obtusive idiots.. frylock Sep 2012 #91

Don't get mad at me because you can't defend your beliefs 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #123

Slander is not free speech. liberalmuse Sep 2012 #107

Legally he has done no wrong 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #125

I kid not - screaming headline from pro-war NY Post: "You Will Pay" closeupready Sep 2012 #78

Good. snort Sep 2012 #4

Needs to be frightened of going back to prison LeighAnn Sep 2012 #11

I'm waiting for his ties to the James O'Keefe gang to surface. The circle will be complete then. freshwest Sep 2012 #25

Scared? doesn't he trust in his "God" to keep them safe? Marrah_G Sep 2012 #5

Well put. Blue State Bandit Sep 2012 #59

I wish no violence on this man. Only the wrath of the Internets. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #6

This man is a ex-con. Panasonic Sep 2012 #7

"solely responsible"??? ...get off the crack pipe! L0oniX Sep 2012 #54

What evidence supports your claim that he is "solely responsible for the death of Ambassador JDPriestly Sep 2012 #98

Are there any ties between the movie and Republican lawmakers and donors? alfredo Sep 2012 #8

Made for 2012 LeighAnn Sep 2012 #20

+1 freshwest Sep 2012 #26

check this link barbtries Sep 2012 #23

You found it, thanks. freshwest Sep 2012 #27

So it looks like this might have been an attempt to foment a cultural war Maeve Sep 2012 #71

It's a shame his family is in danger. reflection Sep 2012 #9

Good 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #10

but they should also stand up for their convictions, not hide behind madmom Sep 2012 #34

Because he would be murdered 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #38

Bill Maher made his movie, Religulous, lots of people were offended as well as madmom Sep 2012 #90

Bill and Mel were offending people who don't have overly emotional responses 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #122

this..... madmom Sep 2012 #135

This doesn't fall under the category of screaming fire in a crowded theater 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #137

I'm sorry this guy did this with the intent of inciting madmom Sep 2012 #140

You can't predict or control the actions of insane people 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #141

I haven't seen this "movie" yet. Did the producer/writer actually tell anyone PavePusher Sep 2012 #142

I'm sure many wanted to murder Bill Maher too after he said they were not cowards. L0oniX Sep 2012 #68

I'm not 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #74

So now the taxpayers are paying for his protection jsr Sep 2012 #14

That's part of what taxes are for 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #41

Well, what you sow ... Zoeisright Sep 2012 #15

What did he expect? And are we supposed to protect him the rest of his sorry life? appleannie1 Sep 2012 #17

Good Rabid_Rabbit Sep 2012 #19

I hope he is protected too even though I do not agree with his vulgarity. It isn't JDPriestly Sep 2012 #100

This dude JEB Sep 2012 #21

Religion causes more trouble than it's worth. sarcasmo Sep 2012 #22

Now, he's frightened. NOLALady Sep 2012 #24

Stupid fkr HeeBGBz Sep 2012 #28

As a CA taxpayer, I resent paying for his protection... radhika Sep 2012 #29

Why do this guy rate protection............. kooljerk666 Sep 2012 #31

This is the USA ...even people in prison get protection. L0oniX Sep 2012 #67

sounds like a good idea.. frylock Sep 2012 #95

I'm wondering whether he violated his parole -- if he was still on parole. JDPriestly Sep 2012 #101

His fright and concern didn't extend to American diplomats in the Middle East. Jim__ Sep 2012 #32

+1000 He knew what he was doing when he put it out there. Now he has to live with the consequences NotThisTime Sep 2012 #112

Welcome to the other side of the coin. Dija know while Mitt suports the free expression of crap.... marble falls Sep 2012 #33

Get the hard drives malaise Sep 2012 #35

.... DeSwiss Sep 2012 #36

hmmm, not nearly as "scared" as those diplomats in libya, i bet. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #37

I don't think taxpayers should be protecting him from himself.... Swede Atlanta Sep 2012 #39

Why isn't this guy being held for violating his federal conviction requirements? Vinnie From Indy Sep 2012 #42

Not sure... Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #92

He should have asked Pat Robertson for shelter. asjr Sep 2012 #44

Oh Damn ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #45

Instead of hiding Gin Sep 2012 #51

Oviously those who did the killing had no fear. L0oniX Sep 2012 #66

A gut level response ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2012 #46

Freedom of Spech is one thing oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #48

Fuck all religions ...and fuck the assholes who kill and blow up medical centers. L0oniX Sep 2012 #65

Good. He did nothing wrong. We should cherish the freedom of expression... Comrade_McKenzie Sep 2012 #49

+1 L0oniX Sep 2012 #61

he did a lot wrong. he may not have done anything illegal cali Sep 2012 #70

Can't he defend himself Politicalboi Sep 2012 #52

County Cops Cover California Coptic Christian's Crib slackmaster Sep 2012 #55

Very good! KansDem Sep 2012 #77

Goog thing that Bill Maher didn't make that film but rather did one on Jesus. L0oniX Sep 2012 #58

Bill Maher covered the bases in Religilous azurnoir Sep 2012 #103

ignorant, half-educated, sub-literate, profiteer of fear and hate... LanternWaste Sep 2012 #64

but but but first amendment!!1 frylock Sep 2012 #94

Precisely. The lack of nuance in these discussions is absurdly disheartening. LanternWaste Sep 2012 #146

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #81

Goodbye. closeupready Sep 2012 #82

Why do you keep the CAPS LOCK key Amonester Sep 2012 #83

And yet Michael Moore has to pay for his own security Downtown Hound Sep 2012 #97

I guess slander gets police protection? liberalmuse Sep 2012 #105

seems that some of those caterwauling about freedom of speech have gone quite silent in that respect azurnoir Sep 2012 #106

He made his bed Livluvgrow Sep 2012 #108

lock him up. That is protection enough olddad56 Sep 2012 #111

Responsibilities come with rights and no one should step on other people's rights just because you appleannie1 Sep 2012 #113

They should send him a bill for private security; don't make taxpayers closeupready Sep 2012 #115

Parts of this thread are among the ugliest that have ever been seen on DU.... xocet Sep 2012 #117

I agree. No better, no worse. Raster Sep 2012 #126

It seems that roughly half support freedom of speech 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #138

Does a person have a legal right to incite a riot? olddad56 Sep 2012 #143

Under our legal definitions that is not what this guy did 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #144

source should be ABC News Radio, not KARN, to be more clear. alp227 Sep 2012 #118