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In reply to the discussion: At long last, 11-member Pacific trade deal takes effect [View all]Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)67. Because trade negotiations are usually done "in secret"?
Because a bunch of other similar international trade deals have been signed by other nations since 2015 and the self-appointed "human rights/transparency/corporate-globalism-is-bad-as-long-as-we-aren't-talking-about-my-iPhone" activist crowd (who Assange played like a 5-cent flute) has been oddly silent about them?
Nevermind the fact that this thing was fishy from the start especially given that Assange wasn't going to be affected either way... And when you ask yourself "Exactly who benefits the most from the TPP being killed (or better yet, the TPP being passed with the U.S. excluded)? It all becomes clear.
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It is good to know there are some sane, knowlegable people still in the world.
pazzyanne
Dec 2018
#1
Not even close to the same thing...the TPP provided benefits to rich globalists and
Demsrule86
Jan 2019
#94
Slavery is never good in an context. But I have read it actually...and it is as bad as I thought.
Demsrule86
Jan 2019
#58
The solution is courts open to Unions and Environmental Groups NOT JUST Corporations
Farmer-Rick
Jan 2019
#28
As consumers, we benefit from this "out of control capitalist trade environment"
Yavin4
Jan 2019
#41
Workers have not been displaced their jobs were shipped out to countries with low wages. We can not
Demsrule86
Jan 2019
#74
Really, take a look at Gary Indiana , Detroit or Youngstown Ohio...and now white collar jobs are
Demsrule86
Jan 2019
#88
NAFTA didn't kill those rust belt jobs and pulling out of the TPP won't bring them back.
ucrdem
Jan 2019
#95
GM sent a new truck to Mexico a month ago...and trade agreement are killing our jobs...NAFTA
Demsrule86
Jan 2019
#96
Part of the reason we are where we are today are because of those who subscribe to the all or
still_one
Jan 2019
#26
Bernie long led that argument, but the blow that likely killed things was Clinton joining the
karynnj
Jan 2019
#68
No it wouldn't have helped her. The TPP was very unpopular...for good reason.
Demsrule86
Jan 2019
#91
No it hasn't . My hubs worked in autos for years...and Mexico did not enforce any of
Demsrule86
Jan 2019
#59
No enforcement mechanism...all these great 'rights' and no way to make it happen...and that
Demsrule86
Jan 2019
#36
This is hilarious: you complain about the tribunals, and then complain there is no enforcement
Recursion
Jan 2019
#40
ONLY Corporations and nations have standing to use the tribunals. NOT Unions, NOT citizens,
Farmer-Rick
Jan 2019
#48
No it doesn't...hubs worked in more than a few auto plants over the years...and many closed because
Demsrule86
Jan 2019
#64
Really...Malaysia was allowed to be part of the TPP ....there was a big argument about it because
Demsrule86
Jan 2019
#63
The TPP was fishy which allowed slave countries like Malaysia to join...sorry it was a bad agreement
Demsrule86
Jan 2019
#69
Trump is an idiot...which doesn't mean that the TPP was a good agreement ...it was a bad
Demsrule86
Jan 2019
#90