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130. And what if the teacher said to the first graders that there was no God?

Sun Dec 16, 2018, 11:26 PM

Dec 2018

Would you be ok with that too? Even if the Santa thing made sense, sometimes you have to turn the other cheek, knowing what it could lead to.

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Teacher Who Told First-Grade Students Santa Isn't Real Won't Be Returning To School, Officials Say [View all] Polybius Dec 2018 OP

because... TeamPooka Dec 2018 #1

You lose your job for telling the truth? The tooth fairy isn't real either. allgood33 Dec 2018 #122

fuck....he owes me a lot of money since I got dentures, my retirement plan! Demonaut Dec 2018 #131

In 2nd grade in Catholic school, a nun told us that there was no Santa, just St. Nicholas More_Cowbell Dec 2018 #2

Nuns believe in saints, not old pagan gods. That's canon. So in her terms she was right. Hekate Dec 2018 #14

They can from that gig. Igel Dec 2018 #64

I think firing was extreme vercetti2021 Dec 2018 #3

I think she was a substitute... Freedomofspeech Dec 2018 #6

I do. Big Blue Marble Dec 2018 #7

Kids are pretty resilient vercetti2021 Dec 2018 #23

I say this in the most friendliest of manner The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #24

I find it difficult to say that in a friendly manner. Iggo Dec 2018 #31

same here gopiscrap Dec 2018 #32

It was not her right to take this belief away. Big Blue Marble Dec 2018 #33

So if a teacher taught the children about some other myth, you'd be OK? erronis Dec 2018 #36

Yes, she SHOULD "stick to the facts and just teach those"... brooklynite Dec 2018 #45

actually d_r Dec 2018 #79

Right... Dorian Gray Dec 2018 #104

I appreciate your point of view The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #48

There is no such thing as "superficial trauma." Big Blue Marble Dec 2018 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author LuvLoogie Dec 2018 #58

How about DiverDave Dec 2018 #80

OR we can let them be kids without all the lies. The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #87

Seems An Absolutist Position ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #115

Indeed all lies distort reality The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #116

Thank You For Making My Point ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #117

You &the most rigid of 17th century Calvinists can congratulate yourselves on your joyless existence Hekate Dec 2018 #41

Well at least you're acknowleding the truth The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #49

Or even anti-theist festivals! (Not sure what those are, perhaps Burning Man?) erronis Dec 2018 #55

Burning Man seems to be billed as an art festival plus whatever you want to make of it... Hekate Dec 2018 #62

I'm curious Izzy Blue Dec 2018 #72

I don't but they do The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #89

Apart from all the dynamics involved hopefully Izzy Blue Dec 2018 #98

How old are your kids? Dorian Gray Dec 2018 #105

I'm sorry that happened to you d_r Dec 2018 #77

'tis the season for joy, right? The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #90

Lots of subs are not called back for a million reasons. My question: Tiggeroshii Dec 2018 #82

I never bought into it JonLP24 Dec 2018 #121

She was a substitute, and as such has no standing whatsoever. Believe me. Hekate Dec 2018 #15

I agree it wasn't her place to do what she did vercetti2021 Dec 2018 #21

Great idea for her to bring her good tidings to a religious school. Izzy Blue Dec 2018 #70

No teachers are to teach facts, not falsehoods gopiscrap Dec 2018 #30

I hope she was Jehovah's Witness and got fired. 3Hotdogs Dec 2018 #4

Bingo. knightmaar Dec 2018 #16

When I was H2O Man Dec 2018 #5

beat up a kid. its a regular laugh up alright. nt msongs Dec 2018 #8

At the age of 6? C'mon. Hekate Dec 2018 #13

I'm the fifth oldest child erlewyne Dec 2018 #9

I'm The Oldest RobinA Dec 2018 #111

I knew Santa wasn't real when I unwrapped my chocolate treat packman Dec 2018 #10

I love that. nt More_Cowbell Dec 2018 #11

Wow, that could scar a kid for life! Hekate Dec 2018 #18

And who knows where that dark bunny-god has been? erronis Dec 2018 #37

In a bubble universe Igel Dec 2018 #66

OP is misleading. It was dissing the Elf on a Shelf that did her in. eppur_se_muova Dec 2018 #12

So we want teachers to lie to children? knightmaar Dec 2018 #17

If this is the case I recall, she used her mean-spirited speech to tell the kids about Jesus. Hekate Dec 2018 #19

Par for course gay texan Dec 2018 #22

Why did she even bring it up? Was it part of the curriculum that day? Kaleva Dec 2018 #34

I haven't seen the details. knightmaar Dec 2018 #51

The teacher should have taken the nest step The Wizard Dec 2018 #20

Hey, Christmas is a long standing tradition celebrating elmac Dec 2018 #40

Fuck Christmas and hooray for that teacher. The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #25

Nasty Hekate Dec 2018 #42

Santa has nothing to do with the state. Demsrule86 Dec 2018 #47

You should watch this movie Renew Deal Dec 2018 #54

I've seen it. The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #56

Most of those that go on crusades preaching against the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus.... moriah Dec 2018 #86

I can see that. Thanks for that perspective The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #88

It *was* really awkward for Mom. ;) moriah Dec 2018 #114

Haven't most kids figured it out by 1st grade? I think my brother and I had. nt Quixote1818 Dec 2018 #26

Nope Polybius Dec 2018 #28

If I met a ten year old who genuinely believed in Santa Codeine Dec 2018 #68

Perhaps I was 9 Polybius Dec 2018 #107

If true, that is dismaying. JackRiddler Dec 2018 #69

Why wouldn't it be true? Why is it dismaying? Polybius Dec 2018 #108

I do not consider this "enjoying childhood." JackRiddler Dec 2018 #128

And what if the teacher said to the first graders that there was no God? Polybius Dec 2018 #130

The difference is obvious. JackRiddler Dec 2018 #132

I was 4 1/2. I found a hidden JenniferJuniper Dec 2018 #61

I Pretended RobinA Dec 2018 #112

Putting up the tree and decorating it on Christmas Eve was ridiculously late Polybius Dec 2018 #113

Well, Santa Couldn't Come RobinA Dec 2018 #118

I'm glad I was too young to have ever seen that tradition Polybius Dec 2018 #125

She was a sub... Mike Nelson Dec 2018 #27

Just read from the lesson plan. Don't take questions and don't give independent answers. erronis Dec 2018 #38

But, but, but...Santa isn't real. Iggo Dec 2018 #29

Most families have Christmas traditions that likely involve Santa Claus. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #35

"Most families have Christmas traditions"... erronis Dec 2018 #39

When I asked my Mom why there was a string holding Santa'ss beard on, she got angry and Nitram Dec 2018 #44

Telling the truth should not be a firing offense. Perhaps she should be asigned to teach Nitram Dec 2018 #43

I taught first grade for almost 15 years BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #46

And you would be a fun teacher and a fun sub. Little children need play and imagination... Hekate Dec 2018 #57

Some of them or their parents still write to me. BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #63

EXACTLY. Kids totally need imagination. LisaM Dec 2018 #78

Check out my post in GD -- link Hekate Dec 2018 #84

how can someone be SO STUPID???? samnsara Dec 2018 #52

From the get-go I said she should be fired from the district. Izzy Blue Dec 2018 #73

That's funny! Iggo Dec 2018 #94

We did it a little different. House of Roberts Dec 2018 #53

I like that Santa tradition Izzy Blue Dec 2018 #74

Not usually. House of Roberts Dec 2018 #106

Work all year long and give credit for the joy your kids have laserhaas Dec 2018 #59

I'm with you FiveGoodMen Dec 2018 #67

A very narcissistic thing to do. LuvLoogie Dec 2018 #60

Oh no! Don't interrupt a deception practiced on children! JackRiddler Dec 2018 #133

The world encroaches upon Eden... LuvLoogie Dec 2018 #134

It doesn't have to be a liberationist effort. JackRiddler Dec 2018 #135

It's mine... LuvLoogie Dec 2018 #138

My War on Christmas! JackRiddler Dec 2018 #139

Dude, this is the Democratic Underground. LuvLoogie Dec 2018 #140

Can't always tell, am constantly misinterpreted myself. JackRiddler Dec 2018 #141

as long as she carefully explained Brainstormy Dec 2018 #65

+1 violetpastille Dec 2018 #71

Perhaps it's not the teacher's responsibility to bring children into reality. Wait, what did I say? YOHABLO Dec 2018 #75

WHAT!!! No Santa, East Bunny, the Toothe Fairy. At least I know the Keebler Elf is real still_one Dec 2018 #76

Disgusted Jrsygrl96 Dec 2018 #81

Thank you for humanizing her here. femmedem Dec 2018 #85

According to this mom it appears as a set-up which would indicate intent. Izzy Blue Dec 2018 #93

Don't kid yourself. She KNEW she was educating the children. Iggo Dec 2018 #95

Well stated. nt Codeine Dec 2018 #110

Not touching this one, no way Blue_Tires Dec 2018 #83

Don't worry. I'm all over it. Iggo Dec 2018 #96

My 11 year old granddaughter still believes. trof Dec 2018 #91

Vilified for telling the truth. SMH LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #92

Good, it wasn't her place to do that Marrah_Goodman Dec 2018 #97

It was exactly her place. Iggo Dec 2018 #99

No, it wasn't. Marrah_Goodman Dec 2018 #100

Yes, it was. Iggo Dec 2018 #101

Nope.... we are absolutely NOT going to agree on this Marrah_Goodman Dec 2018 #102

Yep...we aren't. Iggo Dec 2018 #103

DESTROY! OH THE HUMANITY!!! JackRiddler Dec 2018 #136

My Kindergarten Nun told us there was no Santa... Talitha Dec 2018 #109

Why should public tax dollars prop up an institution that perpetuates lies to kids? meadowlander Dec 2018 #119

agreed The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #120

I'm sorry, I agree that it was stupid and wrong for her liberalhistorian Dec 2018 #123

All children find out Santa isn't real at some point... backtoblue Dec 2018 #124

Good. That substitute teacher was way out of line. TDale313 Dec 2018 #126

I'm sure glad I didn't have many of you for parents. SomethingNew Dec 2018 #127

Bunch of strawman bullshit JackRiddler Dec 2018 #137

Some of your fellow Scrooges upthread SomethingNew Dec 2018 #142

Children should not be told lies. JackRiddler Dec 2018 #129