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20. In my understanding the god or belief systems are the people.

Sat Dec 15, 2018, 03:00 PM

Dec 2018

I can't separate the people, who have the only mechanism to perpetuate belief or gods, from those systems, that mechanism being their brain. People think and ponder and choose. The systems separated from the person are the system's holy texts written by other people. The books don't ponder, but people and those who they select as teachers do. If people are caught in a system by their culture, background or just exposure, it's still the human that continues the incivility in person and through the intent of the historical texts or visions of their choosing. The only remedy that I can see is fact based education.

This is from the viewpoint of a non-believer. If one believes in a deity then of course that person can marginally blame the deity and its proclamations.

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