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In reply to the discussion: GOLDEN EAGLES FACE EXTINCTION IN U.S. AS NUMBERS PLUMMET, NEW STUDIES REVEAL: WIND FARMS ARE CAUSE [View all]Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)90. Unfortunately eagles do get killed occasionally by wind generators
and also by power lines and also by jet aircraft. The stories on them being rendered almost extinct by wind generators is hype.
We would save far more eagles and other birds if we eliminated jet aircraft and overhead power lines, neither of which are necessary to the survival of the planet. And if the planet doesn't survive, then the eagles will be shit out of luck too.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/26/eagle-with-web-following-struck-killed-by-plane/
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GOLDEN EAGLES FACE EXTINCTION IN U.S. AS NUMBERS PLUMMET, NEW STUDIES REVEAL: WIND FARMS ARE CAUSE [View all]
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
OP
No reason for skeptcisim-unless you're a troll for the wind industry (Koch Brothers $$$)
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#8
Here in Wisconsin the Koch's own coal plants, and had their bought-and-paid-for governor....
Scuba
Jan 2012
#12
koch money works a lot better denying global warming and in oil. i wouldn't put it past
certainot
Jan 2012
#37
Do you have a cite showing that the Kochs are invested in the turbines in question?
drm604
Jan 2012
#55
There are videos of large birds actually sitting on top of the turbines, and other videos of kills.
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#106
If they're that stupid--and I don't think they are--how would they avoid crashing into mountains? nt
MADem
Jan 2012
#114
The president of "Save the Eagles" is a global warming denier with several astro-turf websites and
bananas
Jan 2012
#73
Wrong. The local web designer they used has MANY sites in a wide range of fields.
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#84
The only articles I've seen about wind and the Kochs show them spending $$$ opposing wind generation
suffragette
Jan 2012
#75
LibertyBelle: That link of yours is to a Tea Party and Koch Brothers supported group:
NYC_SKP
May 2013
#129
BUT IT WAS ALL IN CAPITALS = HOW DARE YOU BE SKEPTICAL = IF IT WASN'T 100% TRUE
grantcart
Jan 2012
#97
It is not staged. In our area there are reports of bird kills behind hidden. The problem is rampant
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#7
Got a link to current info from Audobon, Cornell, or any other well-known bird/wildlife group?
MH1
Jan 2012
#22
Bingo. But they need to be vertical axis turbines, not horizontals. Verticals don't kill birds.
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#89
Save the Eagles got active in part due to frustration that Audobon wasn't protecting birds from wind
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#101
This is a bogus change. New turbines are bigger, but they''remeasuring smaller areas for bird kills.
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#9
Wrong assumption. Author has a degree in environmental studies and is a strong conservationist
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#17
thanks for below. & environmentalists need to know limbaugh practically singlehandedly made "climate
certainot
Jan 2012
#47
WTF about the "take permits"?---kill eagles b/c they're being killed by wind blades?
wordpix
Jan 2012
#25
independent info on the eagle "take permits" for wind farms - US Fish & Wildlife is doing this
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#105
Wow, it's like it's a completely phony front organization or something !
eppur_se_muova
Jan 2012
#53
So what? The registrant is a web design company with MANY registered websites on many topics.
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#83
even if this wasn't directly from the heritage foundation the challenge is still to minimize
certainot
Jan 2012
#43
EIRs are regularly ignored. Our area had one that read "severe and unmitigatible fire danger" for a
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#102
that is true; and the co's that write them sometimes have contracts with the state
wordpix
Jan 2012
#121
Stuff like this that gives Environmentalism a bad name with the general public.
MicaelS
Jan 2012
#96
"STEI" appears the only source of this information. And it's run by a global warming skeptic.
DirkGently
Jan 2012
#104
US Fish & Wildlife SErvice confirms a growing number of eagles killed by turbines
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#108
Maybe make the tops of the turbine tower pointed so that the birds don't nest atop them?
bigworld
Jan 2012
#112
What bullshit! What pug is killing eagles and putting them next to a windmill?
lonestarnot
Jan 2012
#118
They don't nest everywhere - only in areas with rocky crags/crevasses and large trees.
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#128