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JDPriestly

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61. Palestinians would have more of my sympathy if they showed a willingness to respect and
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 11:16 PM
Aug 2012

embrace the partition determined as part of the establishment of peace following WWII.

I think that the Palestinians have wasted half a century fighting over the partition. It is my opinion that they could have easily lessened their problems and established good relationships with Israelis, perhaps even achieved a two-state solution that might one day permit a one-state solution with equal rights, had they accepted the reality of the partition and worked with all their neighbors including the Israelis to bring prosperity to their region.

The Palestinians are a talented, brilliant people, but they have wasted themselves on fighting over the trivial issue of who owns what. They have lost at every turn. It's time for them to decide to live in peace amongst themselves and with all their neighbors including Israel.

Make war not peace.

Prior to the Second Intifada, I hoped so that we would have a real peace in the Middle East.

Title to the holy shrines in Jerusalem, the dispute over who can call Jerusalem their capitol are just childish. Sorry. But they are. Religious superstition.

Jerusalem is something to cooperate about, not something to fight over. It desecrates the holy places in the city in my opinion.

We live quite well in the US without having such important holy shrines.

Who needs death camps? penndragon69 Aug 2012 #1
it's not all the Israelis' fault - how about birth control? wordpix Aug 2012 #2
That will teach the Palestinians for being born to the wrong religion! cpwm17 Aug 2012 #3
of course Palestinians' overpopulation is the Jews' fault wordpix Aug 2012 #5
Please pay attention to what I wrote cpwm17 Aug 2012 #11
What unmitigated crap leftynyc Aug 2012 #12
They're not as good sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #17
+1 nt JudyM Aug 2012 #82
So why not have some Arab country take them in? Archae Aug 2012 #4
Um, because we're talking about Palestinians, not Jordanians. closeupready Aug 2012 #6
The US is made up of people we "took in." JDPriestly Aug 2012 #7
Exactly. Archae Aug 2012 #13
These are reasonable points. n/t Psephos Aug 2012 #40
I don't get your point. closeupready Aug 2012 #14
My point is that Palestinians need to accept that they never had a country JDPriestly Aug 2012 #38
Technically speaking, no one has ever had a country. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #47
There are 2.7 million Palestinians in Jordan and 400,000 Palestinians in Lebanon azurnoir Aug 2012 #15
True. If all Americans who are descended from immigrants had to return to the countries of their JDPriestly Aug 2012 #27
You are essentially advocating ethnic cleansing cpwm17 Aug 2012 #16
Tense matters. Igel Aug 2012 #24
Thank you, Igel. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #34
And most of the Israelis went to Israel because they were expelled from Europe. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #33
Oh, okay - so SOME forms of ethnic cleansing are valid. closeupready Aug 2012 #44
Palestinians would have more of my sympathy if they showed a willingness to respect and JDPriestly Aug 2012 #61
What % of Israel's population is Arab vs what % of Gaza's is Jewish? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #66
That has absolutely nothing to do with civil rights. closeupready Aug 2012 #69
"did DU get hijacked by the reich wing" Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #70
done with you. closeupready Aug 2012 #71
No, wait, please don't go away! Tell me more about pro-Israel Nazis. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #72
sick fascisthunter Aug 2012 #86
You can't trust the Palestinians. sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #18
Oh here we go, how about Israel find it's fresh water somewhere else snooper2 Aug 2012 #20
The logistics of finding a home for 4 million people is easier said than done Ash_F Aug 2012 #28
I can't believe I'm seeing what amounts to advocacy of ethnic cleansing on this board. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #8
Yes, it is very strange. mbperrin Aug 2012 #9
The rising population certainly doesn't help. hoboken123 Aug 2012 #21
Rising population IS a problem progressoid Aug 2012 #22
Welcome to DU today. Ash_F Aug 2012 #29
Since you dislike it so much why continue? former9thward Aug 2012 #78
Wasn't really directed at you but since you chimed in... Ash_F Aug 2012 #79
it isn't not so much ethnic cleansing as it is ethnic condensing azurnoir Aug 2012 #30
+1000. nt. polly7 Aug 2012 #81
Unfortunately, I think that's the plan. nt Viva_La_Revolution Aug 2012 #10
It was their land sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #19
But the Palestinians were not persecuted for being Jewish. The Jews were -- for centuries. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #35
Criticizing Israel is considered "hate"? Hugabear Aug 2012 #42
I didn't know that one of the winners of WWII sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #49
The modern state of Israel is the creation of the winners of WWII and is a vital part of the JDPriestly Aug 2012 #59
Hitler used the Jews sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #65
I lived in Austria in a town that had been home to many Jews before the war. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #73
what you say is true, JD, thanks for your posts wordpix Aug 2012 #83
And now that the Jews sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #85
it's sick.... it's pure bigotry fascisthunter Aug 2012 #87
What is? sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #89
the reasoning that Israel somehow has the right to take land from Palestinians. fascisthunter Aug 2012 #90
Your brevity confused me. sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #91
No it wasn't oberliner Aug 2012 #52
Of course it was. sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #56
They forfeited that when they supported those who tried to destroy Israel Freddie Stubbs Aug 2012 #67
That's like saying an indigenous people sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #74
There was plenty of room for everyone in 1948, but the Palestinians and their Arab allies refused Freddie Stubbs Aug 2012 #80
Your argument sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #84
There was a partition plan created by the UN for both the Jews and the Arabs to have Freddie Stubbs Sep 2012 #92
What right did the UN sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #93
Foreigners? There were 800,000 Jews living there in 1948 Freddie Stubbs Sep 2012 #94
In 1941 there were 400 thousand sulphurdunn Sep 2012 #95
We ally with Israel in large part due to our common interest in human rights CreekDog Aug 2012 #23
Two words nanabugg Aug 2012 #31
But Israel cannot do that until the Palestinians agree to also end the violence. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #37
Very odd - your chosen icon is the US Constitution's Preamble; yet, closeupready Aug 2012 #48
When the Palestinians decide to respect the human, civil and national rights of Israelis, JDPriestly Aug 2012 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Aug 2012 #62
We have been too one sided in favor of Israel Joey Liberal Aug 2012 #25
Poland's ghetto in WW2 Did I Just Type This Aug 2012 #26
it's not the same thing---Jews could not leave the ghetto or they'd be shot wordpix Aug 2012 #32
Why should they leave? sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #50
I didn't say they should leave - I said they CAN leave wordpix Aug 2012 #77
The US will not be liveable if Mittfalca wins. nt valerief Aug 2012 #36
That's the whole point. Israel is engaging in Ethnic Cleasing.. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #39
What do you care? We're going to Mars! McGee from Muskogee Aug 2012 #41
Palestinian population explosion = Ethnic Cleansing? OK. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #45
+10000 It's so ethnically cleansed of Palestinians that their numbers are exploding wordpix Aug 2012 #46
The Israelis know sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #53
So that explains the mass exodus of Palestinians .... oh wait. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #55
About half the world's Palestinians sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #57
So two wars started by the Arabs, the last nearly 50 years ago, were the major cause hack89 Aug 2012 #58
It sure is. sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #63
Don't you think continuous rocket attacks from Gaza contribute to the problem? nt hack89 Aug 2012 #64
Endless acts of violence sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #68
In Gaza? oberliner Aug 2012 #51
It's more like ethnic degredation sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #75
But how can Israel do that in Gaza? oberliner Aug 2012 #76
Isn't that the goal? JNelson6563 Aug 2012 #43
Hamas? Israel? oberliner Aug 2012 #54
and the pro-Israel bigots now can say, "See... those filthy Palestinians should leave." fascisthunter Aug 2012 #88
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