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FreepFryer

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4. I think Bush had ethics, a Bushism rooted in self-interested American exceptionalism...

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:47 PM

Apr 2018

...and an aristocratic identification with and resultant entitlement to, state power.

Trump, truly, has no ethics - his inhabitation of the office is a vehicle, not an identification.

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Comey: I wrote about 3 presidents, 2 of whom illustrated 'ethical leadership' [View all] DonViejo Apr 2018 OP

Didnt he have to stand up to Bush and his criminals over the Ashcroft thing or am I Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #1

Youre correct. FreepFryer Apr 2018 #2

Compared to trump Al Capone had some ethical days, but Bush was not ethical Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #3

I think Bush had ethics, a Bushism rooted in self-interested American exceptionalism... FreepFryer Apr 2018 #4

ONe could waste an entire Sunday listing the crimes and horrible actions of the W admin Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #5

President Obama also famously/sadly was unable or unwilling to disarm the surveillance state. FreepFryer Apr 2018 #6

There were FISA and NSA reforms all through his two terms ucrdem Apr 2018 #13

i consider President Obamas accomplishments insufficient in this area. FreepFryer Apr 2018 #15

Probably because you're completely unaware of them. ucrdem Apr 2018 #19

You seem awfully convinced of the ignorance of others. (n/t) FreepFryer Apr 2018 #21

Also when thinking in terms of what President Obama accomplished in this area, FreepFryer Apr 2018 #22

this is what gets me questionseverything Apr 2018 #14

Exactly. Trump is the best argument AGAINST deep state conspiracy imaginable (n/t) FreepFryer Apr 2018 #17

Plus, Mueller was involved! NastyRiffraff Apr 2018 #12

Basically a power struggle with Gonzalez ucrdem Apr 2018 #8

I doubt jr. even knew what President Cheney was doing. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2018 #9

I think this is why Comey was selected BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #10

Too bad you couldn't have done the same during the election pecosbob Apr 2018 #7

And that bullshit excuse he gives that if he doesnt do it she would be a weak president. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #11

He's been after them since the Whitewater days lunamagica Apr 2018 #16

i think he truely didn't want to give the neo cons ammo to use against her but questionseverything Apr 2018 #18

ONE, I would say. sandensea Apr 2018 #20