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77. Apparently quite difficult.

Reply to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Reply #76)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 03:04 PM

Mar 2018

I see a lot of condemnation of the cops on this thread and very few people asking why the suspect not only didn't surrender, but chose to go hands-on with the officers. If you get physical with cops it's gonna end badly, and most probably not for them.

I don't have much sympathy for the guy. He chose to resist with violence and lost. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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Tulare Police shoot and kill suspect during violent confrontation [View all] Garion_55 Mar 2018 OP

I can see why it went the way it did. Renew Deal Mar 2018 #1

Never a need to shoot and kill an unarmed man. safeinOhio Mar 2018 #2

Im sure you would say the same thing if you were the one being pummeled Renew Deal Mar 2018 #4

I wouldn't be pummeled if I wait for all the other cops safeinOhio Mar 2018 #8

So you would let him get away? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #11

Re-read the preceeding posts. The suggestion is Wild Bill and Jingles should have waited for backup. 3Hotdogs Mar 2018 #16

And what is the consequence of that? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #17

You shouldn't shoot people without guns...and if you can't handle an unarmed guy...find another Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #22

OK officer Renew Deal Mar 2018 #27

See...no answer...cops should not shoot unarmed people...and if they do after provoking the Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #40

Wow, really? So we should have forces of Van Dammes roaming the streets? 7962 Mar 2018 #94

so the cop chases this large individual without any backup for some unknown reason Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #109

"unknown reason"? Read the story. He was wanted for assaulting a bus driver. 7962 Mar 2018 #110

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2018 #102

So the cop says... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #108

He wasnt fleeing when shot. He was attacking with the officers baton. 7962 Mar 2018 #97

STFU! Two cops were there with clubs and tazers against one unarmed man. Two cops... brush Mar 2018 #23

Right Renew Deal Mar 2018 #30

How about waiting for back up then and not panicking? It was murder. brush Mar 2018 #32

what do you think is the best way to ask the gentleman assaulting the police to wait for backup? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #34

Never fails. When a cop panics and murders a black man the police apologists come to the rescue. brush Mar 2018 #39

So you want him to have the opportunity to go back and shoot someone himself? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #42

Shoot them with what. He didn't have a gun. It was murder by a panicked cop. brush Mar 2018 #46

The original call was for a shooting Renew Deal Mar 2018 #48

What are you going on about. The dead man did not have a gun. brush Mar 2018 #50

Is the panicked cop also a victim in this case? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #52

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2018 #104

They chased him...according to what I see... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #41

Why are you supporting two cops that murdered a unarmed guy? rockfordfile Mar 2018 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2018 #103

Sorry, two cops should be able to contain one man without resorting to killing him. brush Mar 2018 #105

Cops escalate based on what the suspect does. christx30 Mar 2018 #107

Another cop apologist defending a panicking cop emptying his gun into the unarmed man instead... brush Mar 2018 #111

I'm about as much of a cop apologist christx30 Mar 2018 #112

Two full-grown cops should be able to take down one UNARMED guy without having to kill him. brush Mar 2018 #113

But, he wasn't unarmed pintobean Mar 2018 #9

Funny how easy that fact is ignored when some have an agenda. 7962 Mar 2018 #10

Much as the unarmed status of many victims of police brutality is ignored LanternWaste Mar 2018 #74

Not here on DU. THIS criminal wasnt "unarmed", so your point is, as usual, # 7962 Mar 2018 #92

Which feeds into exactly why we don't need "good guys with weapons" in schools... moriah Mar 2018 #73

Well, they were trying to NOT "shoot first". 7962 Mar 2018 #91

It's a risk anytime a cop draws that he will be disarmed, and open carry gun holsters... moriah Mar 2018 #93

Shooting an unarmed suspect 8 times, including after he's already down, is murder. Rainbow Droid Mar 2018 #3

Nope. You got it. Renew Deal Mar 2018 #5

Since the police in this country have carte blanche to shoot and kill unarmed black people... MrScorpio Mar 2018 #6

Exactly. safeinOhio Mar 2018 #7

Is it still a race issue once the criminal starts swinging? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #14

Black people have never had the luxury of disregarding the color of our own skin... MrScorpio Mar 2018 #15

I get that Renew Deal Mar 2018 #18

Which is something that routinely gets said in the aftermath... MrScorpio Mar 2018 #19

What else is routinely said? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #20

Yeah, that these killings are in fact the result.... MrScorpio Mar 2018 #21

That's because the history of all that's happen. rockfordfile Mar 2018 #87

Oh please...the guy was running for his life clearly...the cop probably told him that. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #24

Which guy? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #38

It was a domestic disturbance. christx30 Mar 2018 #37

it is always about race in the beginning...and then it escalates. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #43

The cops should be fired rockfordfile Mar 2018 #86

Nothing atreides1 Mar 2018 #12

I agree Renew Deal Mar 2018 #13

White guy with an AR 15...talk him down...Black guy jay walking or for any minor Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #25

So youre saying that your agenda doesnt fit the evidence Renew Deal Mar 2018 #29

There is no evidence...this is a video...and I am saying. The guy was unarmed... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #35

Tried that. Did that too. Renew Deal Mar 2018 #36

The video doesn't vindicate them. Two cops should be able to physically overpower one man... brush Mar 2018 #26

Really Renew Deal Mar 2018 #28

How about waiting for back up then? The shooter panicked and emptied his gun. It was murder. brush Mar 2018 #31

The shooter is also the victim Renew Deal Mar 2018 #33

Let him go and pick him up later. Where was he going to hide in broad daylight with all those... brush Mar 2018 #45

So they are supposed to let the violent criminal to complete his original crime? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #47

The two cops couldn't handle one man so wait for back up and pick him up later. As I said... brush Mar 2018 #51

So you would let an an obviously violent criminal wanted for a shooting go? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #53

I'm glad you're not either. There'd be even more dead black men. It was murder. The video shows it. brush Mar 2018 #56

Huh? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #57

And your defending murder does? brush Mar 2018 #58

Is the police officer a victim in this case? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #59

THE POLICE OFFICER ISN'T DEAD. brush Mar 2018 #60

Is that the threshold? Renew Deal Mar 2018 #61

You must realize by now you're not making any sense. Disappointing, but defending murder always is. brush Mar 2018 #62

I think you realized long ago that your argument is tainted. Renew Deal Mar 2018 #63

Stop defending killing unarmed black men. Don't you realize what you're revealing about yourself? brush Mar 2018 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Mar 2018 #71

Killing black people for being black is a privilege many want to protect. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #64

Hence the creation of Black Lives Matter. ehrnst Mar 2018 #69

You are aware that murder is a specific legal term with specific legal definitions. ehrnst Mar 2018 #70

Look at the video. brush Mar 2018 #79

What the hell is wrong with you? this isn't a video game. you sound like trump. rockfordfile Mar 2018 #88

Why doesn't the violent criminal just surrender, christx30 Mar 2018 #65

Probably there are some psychological factors at play. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #72

My son is autistic. And sometimes, when he doesn't get his way, christx30 Mar 2018 #99

Your logic is meaningless here! 7962 Mar 2018 #95

No it doesn't in fact...it is sickening. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #44

6 shots? While he's on the ground? HopeAgain Mar 2018 #54

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2018 #106

I don't think most cops have the temperament to use firearms appropriately. hunter Mar 2018 #49

It goes back to the Mike Tyson saying: Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth Renew Deal Mar 2018 #55

I think you're right matt819 Mar 2018 #78

Same thing happen in safeinOhio Mar 2018 #67

Exactly IcyPeas Mar 2018 #75

Same thing happen in London & he probably would've surrendered. 7962 Mar 2018 #98

Probably depending on which London Police he attacked: EX500rider Mar 2018 #100

Last year in England and Wales safeinOhio Mar 2018 #101

I didn't see him grab the baton Bayard Mar 2018 #68

The guy could have been on crank gyroscope Mar 2018 #90

Yeah, I dont get why sometimes a Taser does nothing. Maybe it got the loose shirt & no skin. nt 7962 Mar 2018 #96

Don't punch the officer or rip the baton away, stop fighting Watchfoxheadexplodes Mar 2018 #76

Apparently quite difficult. Jedi Guy Mar 2018 #77

I'm sorry the guy lost his life Watchfoxheadexplodes Mar 2018 #81

Pretty much, yep. N/T Jedi Guy Mar 2018 #82

I have zero "sympathy" for the cop... except that if he's a good guy... hunter Mar 2018 #83

YMMV Jedi Guy Mar 2018 #84

My own "what if" is that I don't let anyone I'd care to shoot live in my head. hunter Mar 2018 #89

Sadly even that can't save you Egnever Mar 2018 #80