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Drahthaardogs

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17. Bernie is not a Democrat.
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 08:56 AM
Mar 2018

He gets no voice in this one. Sorry. You can't speak for a party you don't belong to.

alrighty then Skittles Mar 2018 #1
no ! stonecutter357 Mar 2018 #2
Pot, meet kettle. brush Mar 2018 #3
Well said.. Cha Mar 2018 #200
Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #4
are you sure you got it right? What was the insult against her district? What was it she said? nt JCanete Mar 2018 #5
She also funnelled money...50,000 into her husband's consulting firm. I don't think she can win. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #18
it's not about what jersey people wear, it's what policies they support yurbud Mar 2018 #48
Excuse me? No it is about electability...the most pure in terms of policy are useless if they can't Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #80
and how did the Democrats do in 2016 or the statehouses & governorships? yurbud Mar 2018 #160
The legislatures are gerrymandered and when the top loses so do the lower candidates... Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #193
Actually gerrymandering and Russian interference ehrnst Mar 2018 #213
If the Democratic Party refuses to give all candidates and equal chance in the primary, Sophia4 Mar 2018 #201
The Democratic Party is behaving "utterly fascistic?" Hortensis Mar 2018 #205
I totally agree with your statements about democracy and the purpose of political Sophia4 Mar 2018 #224
Who is advocating "blindly following party leadership?" You make a lot of accusations ehrnst Mar 2018 #231
PUtting the word "blindly" in there at first seems clever, but it is just another TACTIC Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #237
So now youve morphed into implying corruption at every R B Garr Mar 2018 #243
I didn't suggest anything about Sanders and Clinton. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #244
You are only pushing the contrived corruption conspiracy R B Garr Mar 2018 #251
Alert, some posts on DU and elsewhere on social media are written in Russia... Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #226
Right. Sigh. We are in the 2018 primaries. Hortensis Mar 2018 #229
Wanna get REALLY mad? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #230
Since Moser (who will never win the Texas General ) is in the Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #206
We Democratic voters, not "the party leaders." picked our candidate in 2016. What r u talking about? ehrnst Mar 2018 #212
"Our" is the collective members of the DEMOCRATIC Party. Which Democratic voters (as in.... George II Mar 2018 #219
It is my understanding that some here, not necessarily you, Sophia4 Mar 2018 #223
I haven't seen that at all. George II Mar 2018 #225
That is the way it is supposed to be! Sophia4 Mar 2018 #227
You keep saying that it's not, but never back up your accusations against the Party with any facts. ehrnst Mar 2018 #233
Yes, that's what I've seen as well. Except for caucuses -which disenfranchise voters. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #234
Who is saying that? Sounds like a strawman to me. ehrnst Mar 2018 #235
Oh heck no, never, what system are you talking about? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #104
But we have been failing at that for years. You seem to think its because we've been hard on JCanete Mar 2018 #110
I didnt say or mean any of that. This is how simple it is. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #111
what polls are you talking about? Vote for the candidate in the primary you want. If people get JCanete Mar 2018 #113
+1000! LiberalLovinLug Mar 2018 #122
But what if I want a candidate that is tailored to my User Preferences? ehrnst Mar 2018 #214
I just read a response to me that was written in Russia. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #222
Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #232
Where did you read that? Please tell me you wouldn't make an accusation like that without JCanete Mar 2018 #246
what does that even have to do with what I said? Our approach has been failing, that is JCanete Mar 2018 #238
Just this week, self-styled "moderates" voted against the reforms we made in the Sophia4 Mar 2018 #228
Yep, but even when dealing with racism, we always ignore the forces that make those JCanete Mar 2018 #245
What have Democrats been failing at for years? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #236
are you serious right now? Being nearly perpetually in the minority and losing 1000 seats in JCanete Mar 2018 #242
What is "the hard line in the sand" you are referring to? ehrnst Mar 2018 #249
of course it does. Had we been winning seats then the GOP wouldn't have had that opportunity, JCanete Mar 2018 #252
Actually money buys media time. And analyst services. And researchers. ehrnst Mar 2018 #253
It is harder to assess whether a donor is getting what he or she or it paid for JCanete Mar 2018 #254
Actually, it's against the law for banks and corporations to give money to candidates. ehrnst Mar 2018 #255
I love how people here are perfectly willing to follow the money JCanete Mar 2018 #256
According to the FEC Website: ehrnst Mar 2018 #257
That is not the issue. The issues are how do we identify the best, most electable Sophia4 Mar 2018 #202
my understanding is that also was not true, but maybe the source I heard it from was wrong. JCanete Mar 2018 #68
It doesn't matter what is was spent on...the money provided some income to both of them...it is a Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #79
no, God no! The point is to nominate people with actual ideology. Not with team spirit, JCanete Mar 2018 #95
Ideology is meaningless if the person doesn't get elected. You field the best candidate for Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #102
Its you who don't get to have it both ways. The party is trying to decide who is JCanete Mar 2018 #105
The party pointed out issues Moser has. She has not denied any of it. I think the DCCC should Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #135
that baggage, unless there's something I didnt' hear about is pretty weak. By the way though, JCanete Mar 2018 #240
50,000 to your husband's campaign is not a nothing...the GOP will use it against her... Yes I know Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #250
I cant believe people are still saying what you just said. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #106
say something of substance or don't bother. What is your grievence with what I said? JCanete Mar 2018 #107
So, JCanete, what IS Moser's real ideology? Hortensis Mar 2018 #207
I haven't endorsed her. You're totally right, I don't know these things. She's not in my district or JCanete Mar 2018 #239
Hate Joediss Mar 2018 #116
He is commenting on he DCCC actually. I think fletcher is the best candidate...really Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #131
I like... Mike Nelson Mar 2018 #6
So the attacks are only acceptable murielm99 Mar 2018 #7
Someone should remind him of what Our Revolution/Steve Brown did to Sri Kulkarni. George II Mar 2018 #11
They didn't do that with party funds. (n/t) Jim Lane Mar 2018 #21
Who did it with party funds? George II Mar 2018 #50
The DCCC is a party organ. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #137
since most who value Our Revolution don't donate...I doubt it was done with funds that were supplied Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #103
Hi, Dem. We auto-donate to the DCCC and the DSCC. Hortensis Mar 2018 #209
I agree...she is supported by them. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #215
Well, no matter how smart the DCCC becomes, Hortensis Mar 2018 #218
I don't want to mess with your mind BUT GaryCnf Mar 2018 #158
Yes, and thank you (not messing with my head at all!!!) George II Mar 2018 #165
Yea, it was just a deferred prosecution, no conviction entered GaryCnf Mar 2018 #192
I read somewhere that the MLBPA has castigated the NFL about some of their playing rules! George II Mar 2018 #54
Do you see any difference at all betwen the DNC getting involved and attacking somebody in a JCanete Mar 2018 #71
Yep, this is the point. potone Mar 2018 #88
The king making -aka coronation - fallacy gave us Trump. bettyellen Mar 2018 #157
oh come on. For starters, that is not what gave us Trump. Secondly, bullshit if you JCanete Mar 2018 #161
I actually think they ought to have a better vetting processand not let people temporarily bettyellen Mar 2018 #162
because they are us...fucking a. We get to decide who we want to vote for in the primary. JCanete Mar 2018 #163
You think Dems should let Nazis put a D after their name, and I do not. bettyellen Mar 2018 #164
well when that becomes an issue we can talk about it. How much democratic support is your JCanete Mar 2018 #166
These days I wouldnt put it past anyone to try and put a D after their name to bring down other bettyellen Mar 2018 #167
This message was self-deleted by its author BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #178
Laura Moser's likely a plain old Democrat, Hortensis Mar 2018 #210
The Democratic Party has no say in the matter. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #169
hopefully theyll make tax returns a ballot requirement going forward.... bettyellen Mar 2018 #174
That also will be a matter of state law. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #176
I know- a few states are working on just that! I think its great. At this point we cant rely on bettyellen Mar 2018 #177
Double edged sword bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #8
That could be stand-up comedy. lol. BootinUp Mar 2018 #9
Is he aware of the attack his Our Revolution endorsed candidate, Steve Brown.... George II Mar 2018 #10
Hee hee shenmue Mar 2018 #12
Interesting. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #37
Interesting Word.... 'Warning' Me. Mar 2018 #89
again, totally different than the party putting its thumb on the scales when supposedly JCanete Mar 2018 #75
Nope. You should research into what the DCCC is. George II Mar 2018 #78
the official campaign arm of the democrats in the house? I wish sometimes you would JCanete Mar 2018 #99
Other than its members being elected House Democrats, the DCCC has no connection to the DNC. George II Mar 2018 #109
what does official mean to you? Is it an independant pac? Democratic leadership JCanete Mar 2018 #112
You're drifting away from the discussion about the DCCC being "the party". George II Mar 2018 #114
eff...didn't put a title and lost a big post. will respond later. JCanete Mar 2018 #125
It happens. If you're like me, no doubt it won't be as good the second time around. George II Mar 2018 #127
heh, on the bright side you aren't subjected to what was probably too long winded. nt JCanete Mar 2018 #139
OK, I did research it, and you're wrong. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #141
what about calling for a primary opponent against President Obama? grantcart Mar 2018 #100
Wonder if his son, Levi, will attack any Dems Cha Mar 2018 #146
He sure acts like he's not aware of any other attacks Cha Mar 2018 #147
Satire is dead. /nt yardwork Mar 2018 #13
Too bad we cant have an open and honest discussion about this Fullduplexxx Mar 2018 #14
It is too bad. Maybe one day soon... comradebillyboy Mar 2018 #133
Exactly, Fullduplexxx. Cha Mar 2018 #151
Imagine if a Democrat had said that. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #15
Bernie Means Well but Until He Joins the Party, He Needs to Stop Criticizing the Democrats dlk Mar 2018 #16
Are you sure he means well? lark Mar 2018 #20
careful Skittles Mar 2018 #72
That isn't accurate. He said he knew post-primary that there was russian interference. compared JCanete Mar 2018 #76
Getting more and more disappointed in Bernie. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #156
".. means well.." I don't think so. Cha Mar 2018 #152
There's no evidence he means well. BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #180
Exactly.. not if you've been Cha Mar 2018 #198
+1000 (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #221
Bernie is not a Democrat. Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #17
Wow! Thanks, I didn't know that! Jim Lane Mar 2018 #22
No. I don't think I could ever warm to him. nt jrthin Mar 2018 #58
Thank you for being candid. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #134
BS needs to acknowledge and address what Our Revolution lapucelle Mar 2018 #85
Thank Goodness the "our revolution" candidate Cha Mar 2018 #154
Sri has made a new life for himself. I am glad he won. #flipitblue riversedge Mar 2018 #179
I know both candidates and I am glad that the our revolution candidate lost Gothmog Mar 2018 #186
I remember these protests Gothmog Mar 2018 #188
Yet he votes with Dems. Does that annoy you, too? babylonsister Mar 2018 #29
Someone who wants to tell the Democratic party what to do should ehrnst Mar 2018 #30
So much for that big tent. We should babylonsister Mar 2018 #33
There was also this vote: George II Mar 2018 #57
Another misleading headline. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #140
Iraq has squat to go with this thread... R B Garr Mar 2018 #196
"To ignore the actual reason for his vote is deceptive." ehrnst Mar 2018 #217
I for one don't ignore that reason. It's part of the criticism. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #248
What do you mean by "embracing?" ehrnst Mar 2018 #93
I don't know if you've seen this: Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2018 #216
Yes, I know, and the angry gnashing of teeth here on DU when he was ehrnst Mar 2018 #220
He's not a Democrat, what right does he have to speak for the party? Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #36
He's not speaking for the party, just expressing his babylonsister Mar 2018 #38
No, he's telling them NOT to do something Drahthaardogs Mar 2018 #40
Oh, he will try to join when it suits and benefits him. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #42
There's another Glaring reason he Cha Mar 2018 #199
I notice that he's commented about "Democrats" and told them what to do. Does anyone know.... George II Mar 2018 #65
"Stay in the D party" the Senator said a hundred times or more. Sunlei Mar 2018 #183
because his personal principles and political compass align more Left than Right ... BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #90
FORWARD TOGETHER LADS and LASSES! DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #56
In other news Progressive dog Mar 2018 #19
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... samnsara Mar 2018 #23
I don't care who said it or why they said it. Cold War Spook Mar 2018 #24
I'm for Progressives and against Establishment candidates. Whole world is that way right now. harun Mar 2018 #25
Which candidates are you against? Other than GOP candidates. ehrnst Mar 2018 #26
For and against is about more than voting. harun Mar 2018 #31
So why are you on DU? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #32
It is "Democratic Underground" not "Democratic Establishment", that's why. harun Mar 2018 #34
How do you define "Democratic establishment?" ehrnst Mar 2018 #35
Members of Congress who vote with Conservatives harun Mar 2018 #39
You mean like this? ehrnst Mar 2018 #41
+1 betsuni Mar 2018 #43
That person isn't part of the Progressive Caucus anymore, correct? harun Mar 2018 #49
Check it out... Agschmid Mar 2018 #51
A lot of the bills are more complex than a single line item. Sometimes they are compromising harun Mar 2018 #62
So, NOW you're saying that some politicians get a pass for voting with conservatives. ehrnst Mar 2018 #98
So when Bernie does it, it is OK? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #108
Oh okay sure... whatever then. Agschmid Mar 2018 #185
If one were to give citations/links, to use your words, "it would be flagged". George II Mar 2018 #53
I sent them in a PM ehrnst Mar 2018 #115
Being in the Senate would preclude them from member of the Congressional Caucus, wouldn't it? ehrnst Mar 2018 #55
I never set any goal posts. My only push is for how working people get to harun Mar 2018 #61
You said that the definition of "Establishment Democrat" ehrnst Mar 2018 #64
It is pretty easy to tell who is buddy buddy with the Corporate Media, harun Mar 2018 #66
It is illegal for any candidate to accept corporate donations. George II Mar 2018 #69
No it isn't. They have a limit, but then they can get Super PAC support harun Mar 2018 #73
Corporations are prohibited from contributing to candidates. Zero! George II Mar 2018 #77
Maybe you mean in Canada harun Mar 2018 #81
Why the comment about Canada? From your own link: George II Mar 2018 #83
They funnel money support through PAC's and other means harun Mar 2018 #136
"why the fuck are you advocating a moronic point in favor of Corps not directly funding campaigns?" ehrnst Mar 2018 #171
From your link lapucelle Mar 2018 #191
You mean like this? ehrnst Mar 2018 #87
So now you're changing the your definition of "Establishment Democrats" ehrnst Mar 2018 #82
Justice Democrats - you mean the group Cenk Uygur & Kyle Kulinski founded? ehrnst Mar 2018 #97
Yes, and both recently resigned in shame. George II Mar 2018 #117
Right. Cenk works for RT America. ehrnst Mar 2018 #119
Thank you. murielm99 Mar 2018 #126
Isn't Justice Democrats the organization from which its two founders recently resigned... George II Mar 2018 #101
And Cenk Ugur's TYT got bought by a Republican helmed firm in 2014 ehrnst Mar 2018 #121
Hmmm, a right wing lobbyist. George II Mar 2018 #124
Yep, Cenk Uygur and Kyle Kulinski resigned from Cha Mar 2018 #204
Crickets... (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #45
Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2018 #52
First of all.. your premise is wrong.. "establishment" Cha Mar 2018 #142
If in your reality harun Mar 2018 #148
Overused Insult Buzzword.. It's tired and stale. Cha Mar 2018 #149
It's actually gone well beyond buzzword to the realm of a fucking cliche BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #182
It lost all its meaning when people began referring mcar Mar 2018 #170
Exactly, mcar... Cha Mar 2018 #172
In other news, Trump reminds people to be respectful of others on twitter. NT Bleacher Creature Mar 2018 #27
+1000 (nt) ehrnst Mar 2018 #28
And Sarah Huckabee-Sanders berates people for lying. yardwork Mar 2018 #44
Brawaaa Cha Mar 2018 #155
What the ... betsuni Mar 2018 #46
I know, right! Did he have Cha Mar 2018 #173
MEANIE!!!!!!!!!! QC Mar 2018 #47
I don't think he should be telling Democrats anything... Historic NY Mar 2018 #59
zOMG, the hypocrisy. R B Garr Mar 2018 #60
Divide and conquer... radliberal Mar 2018 #63
Beware of slippery slopes. This isn't about a Democrat attacking a Democrat in a primary Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #67
Thank you for your voice of reason. babylonsister Mar 2018 #74
Indeed they should be! potone Mar 2018 #86
This thread "became about" Bernie? murielm99 Mar 2018 #129
Ha, hysterical. babylonsister Mar 2018 #132
I disagree...it is about the DCCC doing it's job and trying to get a candidate who can win. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #84
Come on Demsrule....it is not about that. I don't want my leadership weighing in like that, JCanete Mar 2018 #94
The sad thing is that the DCCC may have helped Moser Gothmog Mar 2018 #187
yes, thank you. People on DU....what the fuck already? Can we quit being such reactionary JCanete Mar 2018 #91
Could it be that Bernie has found yet one more reasons to critisize the Left? BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #92
Sure, but the 2016 primary will never get rehashed QC Mar 2018 #96
Not sticking up for what they did, but the DCCC isn't a formal part of the Democratic Party. George II Mar 2018 #118
Thanks for the clarification Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #120
Its almost universally agreed that what they did was wrong, and I doubt that they'll do anything... George II Mar 2018 #123
Smears are despicable. Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #130
You're being too charitable Jim Lane Mar 2018 #175
You are wrong about the DCCC. It is a party organ. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #138
I don't agree, I'll ask my congressman when I see him in a week or two. However, it's not.... George II Mar 2018 #159
Be sure to ask him the RIGHT question. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #168
Did you approve of the Our Revolution slimy attack on another Democratic candidate Gothmog Mar 2018 #189
I already spoke to that in a reply above. n/t Tom Rinaldo Mar 2018 #190
Wow, thank you for this account, and that is awesome R B Garr Mar 2018 #194
LOL, Bernie. ChiTownDenny Mar 2018 #70
Excuse me? EffieBlack Mar 2018 #128
Ok DAD njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #143
OMG! WTF! "Not Acceptable" LOLOLOLO(LOLO Cha Mar 2018 #144
In a related story, Sanders files copyright infringement suit Adrahil Mar 2018 #145
LOL! Cha Mar 2018 #150
Thats a lovely glass house youve got there. RandySF Mar 2018 #153
Same every election, Ds attacking Ds. Bernies right, its "not acceptable." Sunlei Mar 2018 #181
Too bad BS doesn't follow his own advice. Cha Mar 2018 #247
Not touching this... No way Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #184
LOL, yup. R B Garr Mar 2018 #195
We can't.. and that's Cha Mar 2018 #197
Bernie who? Eko Mar 2018 #203
Isn't that essentially one of the rules on this forum? crim son Mar 2018 #208
When he came to my town in June '16 he did nothing but. ucrdem Mar 2018 #211
Yet another Sanders thread for the trash heap. janx Mar 2018 #241
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