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In reply to the discussion: GOLDEN EAGLES FACE EXTINCTION IN U.S. AS NUMBERS PLUMMET, NEW STUDIES REVEAL: WIND FARMS ARE CAUSE [View all]MH1
(17,595 posts)22. Got a link to current info from Audobon, Cornell, or any other well-known bird/wildlife group?
If not, I'll remain skeptical as well.
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GOLDEN EAGLES FACE EXTINCTION IN U.S. AS NUMBERS PLUMMET, NEW STUDIES REVEAL: WIND FARMS ARE CAUSE [View all]
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
OP
No reason for skeptcisim-unless you're a troll for the wind industry (Koch Brothers $$$)
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#8
Here in Wisconsin the Koch's own coal plants, and had their bought-and-paid-for governor....
Scuba
Jan 2012
#12
koch money works a lot better denying global warming and in oil. i wouldn't put it past
certainot
Jan 2012
#37
Do you have a cite showing that the Kochs are invested in the turbines in question?
drm604
Jan 2012
#55
There are videos of large birds actually sitting on top of the turbines, and other videos of kills.
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#106
If they're that stupid--and I don't think they are--how would they avoid crashing into mountains? nt
MADem
Jan 2012
#114
The president of "Save the Eagles" is a global warming denier with several astro-turf websites and
bananas
Jan 2012
#73
Wrong. The local web designer they used has MANY sites in a wide range of fields.
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#84
The only articles I've seen about wind and the Kochs show them spending $$$ opposing wind generation
suffragette
Jan 2012
#75
LibertyBelle: That link of yours is to a Tea Party and Koch Brothers supported group:
NYC_SKP
May 2013
#129
BUT IT WAS ALL IN CAPITALS = HOW DARE YOU BE SKEPTICAL = IF IT WASN'T 100% TRUE
grantcart
Jan 2012
#97
It is not staged. In our area there are reports of bird kills behind hidden. The problem is rampant
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#7
Got a link to current info from Audobon, Cornell, or any other well-known bird/wildlife group?
MH1
Jan 2012
#22
Bingo. But they need to be vertical axis turbines, not horizontals. Verticals don't kill birds.
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#89
Save the Eagles got active in part due to frustration that Audobon wasn't protecting birds from wind
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#101
This is a bogus change. New turbines are bigger, but they''remeasuring smaller areas for bird kills.
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#9
Wrong assumption. Author has a degree in environmental studies and is a strong conservationist
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#17
thanks for below. & environmentalists need to know limbaugh practically singlehandedly made "climate
certainot
Jan 2012
#47
WTF about the "take permits"?---kill eagles b/c they're being killed by wind blades?
wordpix
Jan 2012
#25
independent info on the eagle "take permits" for wind farms - US Fish & Wildlife is doing this
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#105
Wow, it's like it's a completely phony front organization or something !
eppur_se_muova
Jan 2012
#53
So what? The registrant is a web design company with MANY registered websites on many topics.
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#83
even if this wasn't directly from the heritage foundation the challenge is still to minimize
certainot
Jan 2012
#43
EIRs are regularly ignored. Our area had one that read "severe and unmitigatible fire danger" for a
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#102
that is true; and the co's that write them sometimes have contracts with the state
wordpix
Jan 2012
#121
Stuff like this that gives Environmentalism a bad name with the general public.
MicaelS
Jan 2012
#96
"STEI" appears the only source of this information. And it's run by a global warming skeptic.
DirkGently
Jan 2012
#104
US Fish & Wildlife SErvice confirms a growing number of eagles killed by turbines
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#108
Maybe make the tops of the turbine tower pointed so that the birds don't nest atop them?
bigworld
Jan 2012
#112
What bullshit! What pug is killing eagles and putting them next to a windmill?
lonestarnot
Jan 2012
#118
They don't nest everywhere - only in areas with rocky crags/crevasses and large trees.
Liberty Belle
Jan 2012
#128