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izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
19. "razor sharp blades"??
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 10:27 PM
Jan 2012

I have yet to see an airfoil that is "razor sharp". Large and massive and able to splat large animals, yes, but sharp, no, I don't think so.

Why am I so skeptical? Scuba Jan 2012 #1
No reason for skeptcisim-unless you're a troll for the wind industry (Koch Brothers $$$) Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #8
Here in Wisconsin the Koch's own coal plants, and had their bought-and-paid-for governor.... Scuba Jan 2012 #12
koch money works a lot better denying global warming and in oil. i wouldn't put it past certainot Jan 2012 #37
Do you have a cite showing that the Kochs are invested in the turbines in question? drm604 Jan 2012 #55
Oh bullshit. Zoeisright Jan 2012 #69
There are videos of large birds actually sitting on top of the turbines, and other videos of kills. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #106
If they're that stupid--and I don't think they are--how would they avoid crashing into mountains? nt MADem Jan 2012 #114
The president of "Save the Eagles" is a global warming denier with several astro-turf websites and bananas Jan 2012 #73
Wrong. The local web designer they used has MANY sites in a wide range of fields. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #84
The only articles I've seen about wind and the Kochs show them spending $$$ opposing wind generation suffragette Jan 2012 #75
correction Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #100
LibertyBelle: That link of yours is to a Tea Party and Koch Brothers supported group: NYC_SKP May 2013 #129
color me skeptic, too wordpix Jan 2012 #24
Me, too. nt valerief Jan 2012 #48
Birds seem pretty good at avoiding moving objects Nikia Jan 2012 #63
One of the few times I went golfing... KansDem Jan 2012 #111
BUT IT WAS ALL IN CAPITALS = HOW DARE YOU BE SKEPTICAL = IF IT WASN'T 100% TRUE grantcart Jan 2012 #97
CONCUR - NEVER BEEN MISLED BY CAPITALISTS. edgineered Jan 2012 #123
Call me a Skeptic as well fascisthunter Jan 2012 #2
I am skepty too Mojeoux Jan 2012 #5
It is not staged. In our area there are reports of bird kills behind hidden. The problem is rampant Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #7
Got a link to current info from Audobon, Cornell, or any other well-known bird/wildlife group? MH1 Jan 2012 #22
here is Audubon's - in short, the org is for wind power but only IF wordpix Jan 2012 #28
Thank you for the citation AND why not just give the citizens the money truedelphi Jan 2012 #56
And those can be equipped with screens and made nearly silent. freshwest Jan 2012 #66
Bingo. But they need to be vertical axis turbines, not horizontals. Verticals don't kill birds. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #89
The turbines I have seen that go on top of one's roofs truedelphi Jan 2012 #113
I like this idea.... and pics of these new designs? midnight Jan 2012 #109
+1 sounds good to me - but the corporations want BIG everything wordpix Jan 2012 #119
Bird Mortality Causes. grahampuba Jan 2012 #70
That chart didn't mention loss of habitat- which hedgehog Jan 2012 #93
I believe Audobon is on the wrong side on this issue. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #85
Save the Eagles got active in part due to frustration that Audobon wasn't protecting birds from wind Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #101
I'm skeptical as well. Liberal Veteran Jan 2012 #11
Goes to show you there is no such thing as "green energy". Everything has its doc03 Jan 2012 #3
+1 Puzzledtraveller Jan 2012 #95
I read a story a few weeks ago about several hundred birds doc03 Jan 2012 #4
same people with the same story... see below certainot Jan 2012 #44
Wind Turbine Deal To Kill Less Birds by Pete Danko, December 16th, 2010 tabatha Jan 2012 #6
This is a bogus change. New turbines are bigger, but they''remeasuring smaller areas for bird kills. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #9
That is too bad. tabatha Jan 2012 #15
The new turbines turn at much slower speeds. hack89 Jan 2012 #91
Sounds like an attack by oil people on renewable energy. MrSlayer Jan 2012 #10
Yep Survivoreesta Jan 2012 #14
Wrong assumption. Author has a degree in environmental studies and is a strong conservationist Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #17
I only recently heard about mag lev turbines Beartracks Jan 2012 #50
The author is Miriam Raftery. drm604 Jan 2012 #65
Her website, www.writerink.com lists the degree Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #86
"She" according to you, is "You", You wrote that yourself. NYC_SKP May 2013 #130
Too bad they don't have some kind of sound Politicalboi Jan 2012 #13
Are you joking? boppers Jan 2012 #27
I have always thought that. glinda Jan 2012 #52
Jim Wiegand has proposed that as well. He also suggests a sensor Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #87
Videos of birds hitting wind turbines, for the skeptics: Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #16
I am skepty of your link, and what is with the "Climate-gate" vid? Mojeoux Jan 2012 #18
I disagree that saving birds is the organization's one purpose. drm604 Jan 2012 #35
thanks for below. & environmentalists need to know limbaugh practically singlehandedly made "climate certainot Jan 2012 #47
The savetheeagles site makes subtle attacks on green energy and global warming.. DCBob Jan 2012 #81
What about all the millions of birds killed by domestic cats? Odin2005 Jan 2012 #23
Cats don't kill raptors. tabatha Jan 2012 #26
Cats do kill raptors. boppers Jan 2012 #33
Sorry about that. tabatha Jan 2012 #38
and raptors kill cats certainot Jan 2012 #39
OP is about golden eagles. Talking about extinction. boppers Jan 2012 #29
"razor sharp blades"?? izquierdista Jan 2012 #19
That's what caught my eye Bohunk68 Jan 2012 #78
Well, I have googled for more information on this, and I cannot find any. tabatha Jan 2012 #20
Color me skeptical, this sounds like Big Coal propaganda. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #21
WTF about the "take permits"?---kill eagles b/c they're being killed by wind blades? wordpix Jan 2012 #25
A "take permit" quaker bill Jan 2012 #79
independent info on the eagle "take permits" for wind farms - US Fish & Wildlife is doing this Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #105
How odd. drm604 Jan 2012 #30
good job, drm, you're onto something wordpix Jan 2012 #40
There's more. boppers Jan 2012 #41
GrtLakesWindTruth is appealing to boaters & yachters to save the lakes! wordpix Jan 2012 #42
Yea! Who cares about Global Warming! drm604 Jan 2012 #46
LOL - "Hitler, Climategate, and the carbon tax" by Mark Duchamp bananas Jan 2012 #71
I live on Lake Ontario yankeepants Jan 2012 #77
"let's get real..." drm604 Jan 2012 #82
Actually, this confirms my point yankeepants Jan 2012 #115
I live on Lake Ontario also (ok, 10 miles up river) hedgehog Jan 2012 #94
Why have both threats? yankeepants Jan 2012 #116
GrtLakesWindTruth has good footage of a vulture getting whacked (youtube) wordpix Jan 2012 #45
REALLY good work tkmorris Jan 2012 #49
You're welcome. drm604 Jan 2012 #54
Wow, it's like it's a completely phony front organization or something ! eppur_se_muova Jan 2012 #53
Me, too: sleuthing appreciated! ....next generation designs, too dougolat Jan 2012 #61
So what? The registrant is a web design company with MANY registered websites on many topics. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #83
Since they were nice enough to unlock this for you drm604 Jan 2012 #98
the 2 wind sites don't share a paypal account with Save the Eagles. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #103
more dots to follow: wcfn.org states biofuels cause deforestation wordpix Jan 2012 #122
This message was self-deleted by its author Royal-T Jan 2012 #31
so if this is a problem Celebration Jan 2012 #32
The glare from solar panels is causing eagles to fly into the turbines. Muskypundit Jan 2012 #34
Yes, and the soot from burning coal would reduce the glare drm604 Jan 2012 #36
even if this wasn't directly from the heritage foundation the challenge is still to minimize certainot Jan 2012 #43
Progress has never been a bargain. You have to pay for it. OmahaBlueDog Jan 2012 #51
I'm very, very sceptical of this post and the integrity of the cause Rotegard Jan 2012 #58
Everytime I see a truck with a blade or a hub come down I-29, I smile OmahaBlueDog Jan 2012 #59
And as Rotegard noted, with adequate site studies impacts can be minimal Strelnikov_ Jan 2012 #62
Wind farms on tribal lands are exempt. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #107
Exactly. I have some experience with the industry on the consulting side semillama Jan 2012 #126
So who is STEI? EC Jan 2012 #57
Damn. Would never of guessed that. n/t Strelnikov_ Jan 2012 #60
You're right. drm604 Jan 2012 #64
And see post #71 bananas Jan 2012 #72
seems to be headquartered in Spain wordpix Jan 2012 #120
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Duchamp boppers Jan 2012 #67
I thought the concept was old news - I guess it takes a while saras Jan 2012 #68
No no nooo.... Rex Jan 2012 #74
staged snooper2 Jan 2012 #99
Why is this discredited OP on the DU Home Page? Scuba Jan 2012 #76
I suspect it's automatic Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #80
And nineteen50 Jan 2012 #88
Unfortunately eagles do get killed occasionally by wind generators Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #90
How did this get by the Environmental Impact Studies? Islandlife Jan 2012 #92
EIRs are regularly ignored. Our area had one that read "severe and unmitigatible fire danger" for a Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #102
EIRs are a waste of money and time if they are used selectively.. Islandlife Jan 2012 #110
that is true; and the co's that write them sometimes have contracts with the state wordpix Jan 2012 #121
Stuff like this that gives Environmentalism a bad name with the general public. MicaelS Jan 2012 #96
"STEI" appears the only source of this information. And it's run by a global warming skeptic. DirkGently Jan 2012 #104
US Fish & Wildlife SErvice confirms a growing number of eagles killed by turbines Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #108
Maybe make the tops of the turbine tower pointed so that the birds don't nest atop them? bigworld Jan 2012 #112
Earlier UK links to subject in general here dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #117
What bullshit! What pug is killing eagles and putting them next to a windmill? lonestarnot Jan 2012 #118
The golden eagle territory ozone_man Jan 2012 #124
They don't nest everywhere - only in areas with rocky crags/crevasses and large trees. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #128
K&R burrowowl Jan 2012 #125
Has any habitat improvement research been done? Remmah2 Jan 2012 #127
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