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In reply to the discussion: Payroll employment increases by 228,000 in November; unemployment rate unchanged at 4.1% [View all]progree
(10,901 posts)36. When has there ever been?
Last edited Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:16 PM - Edit history (4)
the reality is that there are not nearly enough good paying jobs for the number of people who need them.
You would have to go back to the 1970s and before to find better inflation-adjusted numbers -- and that was mostly for white males. It was not a great economy for single women or people of color.
Also, see #35 for the average wage of production and non-supervisory workers.
If you have some statistics from reputable sources (not Zerohedge etc.) that back up what you are saying -- whatever it is -- please provide.
Here's median household income (since you don't like averages). Although that statistic is problematic too considering that household sizes have been shrinking and there are more over-65 retired people than there were in 2000. Yes, median household income has been stagnant on an inflation-adjusted basis. And unfortunately the farthest it goes back is 2000. And as always, median statistics entirely leaves out half of the population -- the population over the 50 percentile.
http://advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/Median-Household-Income-Update.php
https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2017/06/22/may-real-median-household-income-little-changed-from-april-last-report
On Edit - here is a link to the Census Bureau's median real household income (i.e. inflation-adjusted)
It begins in 1984 and goes through 2016 (its an annual thing)
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N
1984: $49,355, 1999 (peak year until 2016): 58,655, 2012: (local bottom): 53,331, 2016: 59,039
Though 1984 wasn't a great year -- it was shortly after the 1980-1983 double-dip recession. So the above is starting from a low base year.
As the graph clearly demonstrates
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Ha ha. I wish I knew how to embed a FRED graph in DU, sigh (I'm seeing a wonderful FRED border surrounding an entirely empty white area).
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Payroll employment increases by 228,000 in November; unemployment rate unchanged at 4.1% [View all]
mahatmakanejeeves
Dec 2017
OP
It was on the TV news, too. It looked pretty impressive for San Antonio.
mahatmakanejeeves
Dec 2017
#17
Trump always said to ADD 6% to those unemployment numbers--when OBAMA was Pres.
Bengus81
Dec 2017
#5
Yes, Obama halved the unemployment rate so Shitler lied. Now he is OK with the number.
Fred Sanders
Dec 2017
#12
If you feel the Bureau of Labor Statistics is handing out bunk, start here:
mahatmakanejeeves
Dec 2017
#11
90% chance that the unemployment change is within +/- 300,000 of the stated value
progree
Dec 2017
#22
The mind-numbing rant, based on a version posted on the first Friday in September 2016:
mahatmakanejeeves
Dec 2017
#10
word. i think a lot of people are in denial about the true state of our economy. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2017
#34
Inflation adjusted weekly earnings has been increasing since 1993, but still well below 1970's level
progree
Dec 2017
#27
"average" wages don't tell you a lot. a few good jobs and a lot of crappy ones average out to
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2017
#33
Its the average for production and non-supervisory workers, which is why I use it
progree
Dec 2017
#35
great; too bad most of them don't pay a living wage. the "average" wage doesn't tell anything.
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2017
#32