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36. When has there ever been?
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:43 AM
Dec 2017

Last edited Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:16 PM - Edit history (4)

the reality is that there are not nearly enough good paying jobs for the number of people who need them.


You would have to go back to the 1970s and before to find better inflation-adjusted numbers -- and that was mostly for white males. It was not a great economy for single women or people of color.

Also, see #35 for the average wage of production and non-supervisory workers.

If you have some statistics from reputable sources (not Zerohedge etc.) that back up what you are saying -- whatever it is -- please provide.

Here's median household income (since you don't like averages). Although that statistic is problematic too considering that household sizes have been shrinking and there are more over-65 retired people than there were in 2000. Yes, median household income has been stagnant on an inflation-adjusted basis. And unfortunately the farthest it goes back is 2000. And as always, median statistics entirely leaves out half of the population -- the population over the 50 percentile.
http://advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/Median-Household-Income-Update.php
https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2017/06/22/may-real-median-household-income-little-changed-from-april-last-report


On Edit - here is a link to the Census Bureau's median real household income (i.e. inflation-adjusted)
It begins in 1984 and goes through 2016 (its an annual thing)

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N

1984: $49,355, 1999 (peak year until 2016): 58,655, 2012: (local bottom): 53,331, 2016: 59,039

Though 1984 wasn't a great year -- it was shortly after the 1980-1983 double-dip recession. So the above is starting from a low base year.

As the graph clearly demonstrates
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Ha ha. I wish I knew how to embed a FRED graph in DU, sigh (I'm seeing a wonderful FRED border surrounding an entirely empty white area).
Wonderful news! Kilgore Dec 2017 #1
That is correct, regardless of administration. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #2
Yes, thanks Obama! Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #13
Repugs will take credit highmindedhavi Dec 2017 #19
As always thanks for the monthly posting! BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #3
Thanks for the thanks. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #15
Ha! BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #16
It was on the TV news, too. It looked pretty impressive for San Antonio. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #17
But! But! The Labor participation rate... Norbert Dec 2017 #4
Trump always said to ADD 6% to those unemployment numbers--when OBAMA was Pres. Bengus81 Dec 2017 #5
Yes, Obama halved the unemployment rate so Shitler lied. Now he is OK with the number. Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #12
trump will make sure to reverse those numbers Marthe48 Dec 2017 #6
How can we know that these numbers are legit? Glimmer of Hope Dec 2017 #7
If you feel the Bureau of Labor Statistics is handing out bunk, start here: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #11
Links to earlier reports mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #8
Huh? ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #9
Different surveys progree Dec 2017 #20
Those Are All Statistically Significant ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #21
90% chance that the unemployment change is within +/- 300,000 of the stated value progree Dec 2017 #22
As One With An MS... ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #23
The mind-numbing rant, based on a version posted on the first Friday in September 2016: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #10
I believe the numbers Steerpike Dec 2017 #14
word. i think a lot of people are in denial about the true state of our economy. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #34
From the socialist sounding Bureau of Labor Statistics IronLionZion Dec 2017 #18
Honestly BFD,it was what 4.6--4.7 nearly a YEAR ago when Obama left office?? Bengus81 Dec 2017 #24
Trump sometimes talked about 94 million jobless Americans progree Dec 2017 #25
Problem is ... LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #26
Inflation adjusted weekly earnings has been increasing since 1993, but still well below 1970's level progree Dec 2017 #27
"average" wages don't tell you a lot. a few good jobs and a lot of crappy ones average out to TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #33
Its the average for production and non-supervisory workers, which is why I use it progree Dec 2017 #35
The numbers, from the report: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #30
Other useful links: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #28
Additional tweets, articles, and comments mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #29
I would like to give thanks mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2017 #31
great; too bad most of them don't pay a living wage. the "average" wage doesn't tell anything. TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #32
When has there ever been? progree Dec 2017 #36
Thanks Obama treestar Dec 2017 #37
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