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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #93)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 02:37 PM

94. you want me to repeat your own words to you?

You are most likely correct in that I'm sure she knew he was probably not a boy scout....Its laughable and frankly insulting to her to think someone as smart and aware as she did NOT know about the stories and settlements going back decades.
- in other words you think she is lying...your attempts to cover it up in nice language doesn't change the fact you're calling her a liar.


BUT, I disagree that she should have remained silent, because that would only incite ruminations by the right that she knew, and accepted money anyways and now is hiding. (yes yes Trump was even worse, but Republicans are like toddlers, they have short attention spans and only think they are right and the adults in the room are always wrong)
- They would have made noise anyway, no matter whether she commented an hour after the original report broke or 5 days.

And then you repeat that she probably lied, but you excuse it anyway using political expediency as if she could not possibly be genuinely horrified. You refuse to take her at her word and while there's all this obsession with Hillary and Democrats in general, predation in all its forms and manifestations get ignored.

I don't know whether you're a guy or a woman, but as a woman, I'll let you in on something: Sexism exists every fucking where - in politics, in entertainment, in every sphere of life. When I have to take public transport or use the subway I am subjected to it from men who feel they own the space and can tell me whatever the hell they want to tell me.

And as a girl, I was taught by society that "boys will be boys", that predation is a uniquely masculine thing that you must adapt to - if you are subjected to it, your response will determine how the action is judged. When Gwyneth and Ashley and other women stepped forward with their stories, you could see the difficult choice they had to make in an industry they wanted to be a part of which was controlled by powerful men. Women have always had to adapt and tread carefully to keep our jobs, to keep our livelihood.

And these attitudes, rooted in misogyny, manifest themselves in other ways as well: it's why it's still assumed rape victims wore provocative clothing or did something to get raped ( despite the evidence stating the contrary), it's why women are often gaslighted when we relay our experiences of sexual harassment, and it's once again on display where a woman is being dragged into the Weinstein Scandal, a woman who also happened to be the first female presidential nominee from a major political party. When HER words and HER response is the focus instead of the piece of shit who harassed women. This dragging of Hillary is no fucking different to Trump's stunt of parading Bill Clinton's accusers/victims before the second debate in order to shame her.

Dragging Hillary because of the behavior of men who happened to donate to her is meta-sexism at an unimaginable level. It's disgusting.

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