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71. Men have historically been part of the women's movement in America.

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:30 AM

Oct 2017

We wouldn't have the vote without their help. They can be great supporters.

Much ado about nothing. They were lucky to get him. He is the most famous national politician as a speaker for the convention. I'm assuming all the women turned them down for whatever reason (Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Warren, etc.).

Pretty disturbing that some are being narrow minded and discriminatory. Ironic.

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EMILY's List: Sanders headlining Women's Convention 'sends the wrong message' [View all] riversedge Oct 2017 OP

I disagree with this TOTALLY. There is plenty of room at the table for anyone who supports the group Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #1

He supported that Democrat candidates can/should be anti-abortion! Crash2Parties Oct 2017 #11

Got a link? n/t left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #26

Seriously? You've already erased Heath Mellow from your memory bank? emulatorloo Oct 2017 #36

She just asked for a link. Most people citing facts should be prepared to provide a link. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #68

What's controversial about the statement of well-known fact? emulatorloo Oct 2017 #94

The fact that two people disagree on it makes it a controversial statement. Duh. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #101

An actual fact is controversial? I don't think so. emulatorloo Oct 2017 #131

Guess not for those pushing an agenda left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #95

What agenda am I allegedly pushing? Fact based here. emulatorloo Oct 2017 #96

Heath Mello, Marcy Kaptur, Tom Perriello... MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #93

bernie is pro choice questionseverything Oct 2017 #29

Remember Heath Mello? Guess not n/t emulatorloo Oct 2017 #38

bernie's statement on that questionseverything Oct 2017 #43

so you saying perez is anti abortion too? questionseverything Oct 2017 #45

No, both Perez and Sanders are pro-choice. emulatorloo Oct 2017 #49

And that's okay that he did that. It's an area where that is the only viable option... Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #63

Some would call that, "thowing people with uteruses under the bus" to get what you want. Crash2Parties Oct 2017 #67

That's similar to what Sarandon said about not voting for Hillary (helping Trump win). Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #127

So it's okay to be pragmatic about choice.... LisaM Oct 2017 #126

So are 99% of the Democratic Senators, Governors, House members... brooklynite Oct 2017 #98

well since many prominent women turned down the invatation questionseverything Oct 2017 #123

Should? Disingenuous statement. KPN Oct 2017 #102

Room at the table. Not HEAD of the table. pnwmom Oct 2017 #13

Very Clear Distinction Me. Oct 2017 #53

He is "A" featured speaker. Not "the headliner." There can be several featured speakers. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #64

Wrong. He is the LEAD SPEAKER. He is the HEADLINER. pnwmom Oct 2017 #65

Much ado about nothing. They were lucky to get him. Looks like Hillary & all other notable females Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #69

Wrong. Maxine Waters is a notable woman and she didn't turn them down. She's going to be there pnwmom Oct 2017 #70

Waters is the KEYNOTE SPEAKER. Bernie is opening the convention (not keynote speaker). Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #72

That's what they are saying now, after the backlash. pnwmom Oct 2017 #85

No. Maxine Waters is the KEYNOTE SPEAKER. Sanders is the opening act. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #73

Tamika Mallory walked back her statement about Bernie being the headliner pnwmom Oct 2017 #80

I don't think so. The convention is named in honor of Waters. "Reclaiming Our Time." Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #81

That SOUNDS logical, but when they appropriated Maxine's theme, they still hadn't announced pnwmom Oct 2017 #82

I agree. riversedge Oct 2017 #83

Every year our State Democratic Party holds a Women's Brunch (which is more than just eating).... George II Oct 2017 #19

Well, Emily's List can sponsor an event and pick their keynote speaker karynnj Oct 2017 #2

You may recall there was some kerfuffle with the organizers of the women's march in February. LisaM Oct 2017 #4

I don't get what your problem with who THEY have at THEIR conference is karynnj Oct 2017 #8

Well, it's actually advertised as "The Women's Conference"... LisaM Oct 2017 #9

Are the main people who organized it women? karynnj Oct 2017 #16

I suggest you not insinuate your fellow DU'ers are hypocrites because they disagree w you emulatorloo Oct 2017 #48

Men have historically been part of the women's movement in America. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #71

Wow, are you serious? LisaM Oct 2017 #104

Use your noggin & look up history. Who do you think gave women the vote? Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #105

WHAT????? LisaM Oct 2017 #108

It was exclusively hundreds of men who VOTED to give women the vote & pass the 19th amendment. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #111

I can't believe I'm even in this exchange. LisaM Oct 2017 #112

These are just facts. What's your beef with facts and reality? But for men, you would not be able to Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #114

I'm not going to alert you, even though I should. LisaM Oct 2017 #115

Men are not automatically anti-women's rights. But for them, we would not have the vote. Here it is: Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #113

Is anyone else reading this mansplaining manifesto? LisaM Oct 2017 #117

This started when I pointed out that men have historically played a key part in women's rights. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #119

Please stop. LisaM Oct 2017 #120

The first WOMEN's convention in 40 years shouldn't be headlined by a MAN, pnwmom Oct 2017 #14

It is NOT the first women's convention in 40 years! karynnj Oct 2017 #18

The organizers are billing it as the first national Women's Convention in 40 years: George II Oct 2017 #21

Well, by their choice of their headline speaker, they have inadvertently made it NOT be pnwmom Oct 2017 #30

This whole thing is maddening. LisaM Oct 2017 #118

It is called a "Women's Convention" sheshe2 Oct 2017 #20

It's Tamika Mallory. 'Nuff said. As a POC myself, she does not speak for me. This was a mistake, Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #40

I know. eom sheshe2 Oct 2017 #44

And Nina Me. Oct 2017 #54

Exactly. nt Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #66

And Nomiki emulatorloo Oct 2017 #99

Intersting GaryCnf Oct 2017 #128

I don't know what to tell ya. Find better friends? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #129

Lol GaryCnf Oct 2017 #130

I think Sanders could have declined being the headliner and say he would gladly be a speaker. riversedge Oct 2017 #116

He's not the headliner melman Oct 2017 #124

I had forgotten that at first. deurbano Oct 2017 #10

Yeah, it was really a divisive move. LisaM Oct 2017 #12

It's not Emily's List's convention. But the group can choose its keynote, and its MAXINE WATERS. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #74

Thanks. karynnj Oct 2017 #89

I'll just drop this here... Purveyor Oct 2017 #3

THANK YOU. LisaM Oct 2017 #6

boy, that Bernie Sanders just can't do anything right, can he? ProfessorPlum Oct 2017 #5

Glad they're speaking out.... NurseJackie Oct 2017 #7

I'm sorry, did he force his way in to speak ? kacekwl Oct 2017 #15

Sanders polls as the most popular politician in America today. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #17

No he doesn't. George II Oct 2017 #22

Truth. Thank you. NurseJackie Oct 2017 #24

Just so you know... OilemFirchen Oct 2017 #31

Hah, good one, thanks! I actually thought it was Stolichnaya that would be replaced by Smirnoff. George II Oct 2017 #35

... emulatorloo Oct 2017 #42

Joementum cadmium Oct 2017 #23

wow, that is a flat out untruth ProfessorPlum Oct 2017 #106

That lie has been debunked more times than I care to count. n/t Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #41

It will be up to Bernie Sanders if he wants to opt out..he has time..Oct 27..today Oct 12.. Stuart G Oct 2017 #25

This is nothing more than a Bernie for POTUS in '20 advertisement. Tamika Mallory is not to be.... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #46

Might want to check your facts. Don't automatically believe what you THINK you read. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #75

Depends on how you look at it Philistein Oct 2017 #27

Interesting way to look at it, & after seeing at least 200+ concerts in my life I get your point! NT CaptainTruth Oct 2017 #34

According to "Women's March", Hillary Clinton is NOT speaking. And they've been very vague.... George II Oct 2017 #121

I guess Bernie is warming up for Maxine. Philistein Oct 2017 #122

First, Maxine Waters needs no "warming up". And it's a women's convention, one would think.... George II Oct 2017 #125

Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #28

Poor choice for a headline speaker. brer cat Oct 2017 #32

I don't know all the details but if this is a Women's Convention I feel the opening/keynote/first... CaptainTruth Oct 2017 #33

So, organizers of a Women's Convention can't CHOOSE who they ask to speak? FailureToCommunicate Oct 2017 #37

Then you failed to read my post 20, FailureToCommunicate. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #47

Of course they can. Sorry, don't see a single post that says "this is Bernie's doing" emulatorloo Oct 2017 #51

After reading this thread, it's asy to understand why democrank Oct 2017 #39

Democrats lost seats because they voted for the stimulus and Obamacare emulatorloo Oct 2017 #50

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #76

no shit. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #90

Can't help but wonder Jake Stern Oct 2017 #52

Something tells me it would be odd to have any man open a women's convention emulatorloo Oct 2017 #55

Tone deaf. Justice Oct 2017 #56

Somebody tried to smear folks as "hypocrites" up thread as well emulatorloo Oct 2017 #58

I see no problem with a man being an opening act for the keynote speaker, who is female... Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #79

I doubt the outcome of any US elections will be decided based on this thread emulatorloo Oct 2017 #97

It's an attitude & lack of pragmatism & focus on the big picture that'll cost. Susan Sarandon effect Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #100

The keynote speaker at a women's convention should be a woman. Beacool Oct 2017 #59

It's amazing and very discouraging that some progressives cannot understand this. n/t pnwmom Oct 2017 #61

Yes, it is. Beacool Oct 2017 #62

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #77

It wasn't, though, was it? treestar Oct 2017 #87

I agree with this tweet from Peter Daou. Beacool Oct 2017 #57

Well, it's 2016-17 in a nutshell! pnwmom Oct 2017 #60

But those things are unrelated. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #78

Sadly, so true. riversedge Oct 2017 #84

Makes no sense treestar Oct 2017 #86

I agree with Emily's list. Wondering about these organizers... Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #88

maybe they recognize a popular ally ProfessorPlum Oct 2017 #107

Nah! We gots to agree to disagree on this one, won't we? Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #91

Damn right it does. The tone deafness continues. MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #92

Yep! Tone deafness is right. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #103

K&R Gothmog Oct 2017 #110