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37. Not necessary. The BATFE has sufficient authority to do it with a stroke of the pen.

Wed Oct 4, 2017, 09:50 PM

Oct 2017

They decided that using a shoestring tied to the bolt handle, looped through the trigger, and connected to a stationary part of the gun, constituted the manufacture of a new machine gun. They can do the same with slide stocks. They simply issue a new opinion and it is done.

Basically they classified the shoestring in the above example as a machine gun, just like the single part called an Auto Sear is classified as a machine gun. (Component inside a select-fire platform like the AR.)

It's within the BATFE's jurisdiction to make a ruling here.

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CONFIRMED: Magpul PMAGs Used In Las Vegas Massacre [View all] angka Oct 2017 OP

the irony is going to be lapfog_1 Oct 2017 #1

Colorado's hypocrisy was breathtaking hack89 Oct 2017 #2

Wow. just wow. SMDH iluvtennis Oct 2017 #4

The owners should be arrested. Kingofalldems Oct 2017 #3

What law did they break? nt hack89 Oct 2017 #5

Maybe The Victims Will Sue This Company Out Of Business SoCalMusicLover Oct 2017 #7

You can't sue companies for selling legal products in accordance with the law hack89 Oct 2017 #9

What Are You Talking About? SoCalMusicLover Oct 2017 #18

The dealers are covered by the PLCAA hack89 Oct 2017 #19

The PLCAA only covers "firearms & ammunition" riverwalker Oct 2017 #62

OK. But it is hard to see how MagPul has any liablity hack89 Oct 2017 #71

And encouraging that nonsense is how several Sandy Hook victim families ended up stuck with legal AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #22

Sandy Hook failed because it went after the firearm riverwalker Oct 2017 #63

Functioned as intended, sold lawfully for lawful purpose. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #72

We have a ridiculous carve out for guns, unlike any other product sold, this one is Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #26

Sure they can sue everyone, but........... MichMan Oct 2017 #28

A few did and the companies came out fine... Baconator Oct 2017 #39

Here's an excellent writeup of all the legal ramifications of the shooting... forkol Oct 2017 #41

One person there riverwalker Oct 2017 #66

people sued the cig companies, and won. Mosby Oct 2017 #47

The cigarette companies were breaking the law hack89 Oct 2017 #48

Of course. Kingofalldems Oct 2017 #25

And I knew you could not answer a basic question. hack89 Oct 2017 #53

The first law of nature: Preservation of the species. crosinski Oct 2017 #8

Ok. Interesting legal theory. nt hack89 Oct 2017 #10

Maybe we should sue on behalf of the human race? n/t crosinski Oct 2017 #12

Sure, if you like being laughed at in court filings. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #13

I don't mind being laughed at. Do you? crosinski Oct 2017 #14

I prefer to do something productive. Like ask the BATFE to revisit its ruling that slide stocks are AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #15

So you think the way we have always done things is suddenly going to start working? crosinski Oct 2017 #16

Well, it's going to work better than doing something that has been tried over and over and failed. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #20

I think you've missed my challenge. What can YOU do that hasn't been done before? crosinski Oct 2017 #21

Well, in the past i've told people slide stocks are stupid and a legal risk. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #23

I think they'll get banned once they can figure out how to write legislation that specifically... EL34x4 Oct 2017 #36

Not necessary. The BATFE has sufficient authority to do it with a stroke of the pen. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #37

Congress is going to want to justify their existence Calista241 Oct 2017 #49

a better solution Ambivalent1 Oct 2017 #51

You won't be laughing when you have to pay Magpul's legal costs. EL34x4 Oct 2017 #35

No Standing RobinA Oct 2017 #24

good idea but that's like calling god as a witness HAB911 Oct 2017 #43

Yeah, I was using that as a metaphore to talk about ideals. crosinski Oct 2017 #46

You talking about jamzrockz Oct 2017 #69

Blood on their hands... paleotn Oct 2017 #31

That's nice. hack89 Oct 2017 #33

Difficult 1st post Ambivalent1 Oct 2017 #50

Thanks Ambivalent1. Welcome to DU Hangingon Oct 2017 #73

Reckless endangerment. harun Oct 2017 #74

Nope hack89 Oct 2017 #75

Over simplification. Do I think someone will charge them with this, no. harun Oct 2017 #78

That's not even 'high capacity'. A 20/thirty rounnd magazine is standard on an AR-15. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #6

He had stacks of the Surefire 100 rd mags. NT Adrahil Oct 2017 #40

Yeah, so THAT would be 'high capacity'. 3x what the manufacturer includes out of the box. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #44

Gun nuts will see the fact Mr.Bill Oct 2017 #11

Slide Fire makes the bump stocks Marthe48 Oct 2017 #17

SlideFire marketing to children riverwalker Oct 2017 #67

Shameful Marthe48 Oct 2017 #68

Thanks angka Just Yakov Oct 2017 #27

"Magpul are now criminals." For making a legal product? EX500rider Oct 2017 #55

They make nothing but killing items. Just Yakov Oct 2017 #56

There are a lot of companies that make "nothing but killing items"... jmowreader Oct 2017 #57

Magazines don't kill anybody, bullets do. EX500rider Oct 2017 #61

There are people Turbineguy Oct 2017 #29

Didn't I read tiptonic Oct 2017 #30

Common for the NRA... paleotn Oct 2017 #32

They obey the local laws hack89 Oct 2017 #34

Scary plastic.. Baconator Oct 2017 #38

The pic shows stacks of what I believe are Surefires. ileus Oct 2017 #42

Yup. 100 rds a mag. Adrahil Oct 2017 #45

Yeah I've always wanted a 60 but I'm too cheap to buy one. ileus Oct 2017 #54

Wasn't he pretty well off? Millionaire or something? xor Oct 2017 #58

Yeah, and he spent it on this stuff. Adrahil Oct 2017 #59

The US Army just ordered 12,500 Magpul PMAG magazines Not Ruth Oct 2017 #52

We were so proud of Colorado Democrats locks Oct 2017 #60

"Magpul's guns are made to kill.." I guess they would be if they actually made guns... EX500rider Oct 2017 #65

Bunch of hypocrites hack89 Oct 2017 #70

The PCLAA riverwalker Oct 2017 #64

The 2nd... Snackshack Oct 2017 #76

The 2A is irrelevent to the discussion on magazine size hack89 Oct 2017 #77

Correct. Snackshack Oct 2017 #79

Lack of gun control is due to lack of wide and deep public support hack89 Oct 2017 #80

I agree. Snackshack Oct 2017 #81