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Yep twizzler Aug 2012 #1
SORT OF FIGURED THIS WOULD BE THE CARE HowHasItComeToThis Aug 2012 #152
Racists and gang-bangers get drummed out of the military Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #156
Unfortunately, Page was not drummed out of the military for being a white supremacist. yardwork Aug 2012 #164
Yep -- Bigotry/hate, guns and tragedy. Hoyt Aug 2012 #2
Bigotry/hate twizzler Aug 2012 #5
Could have but didn't. Guns enable folks to do this crap. Hoyt Aug 2012 #10
I have to firmly disagree with you twizzler Aug 2012 #14
A sick twisted mind and a bunch of guns -- they all go together and produce what we have here. Hoyt Aug 2012 #25
McVeigh didn't have a gun atreides1 Aug 2012 #37
there was a ton of pre-meditation in that case... iamthebandfanman Aug 2012 #41
There wasn't at Happy Land though dmallind Aug 2012 #80
A gun is a phallic symbol and therefore more likely the weapon of choice, JDPriestly Aug 2012 #77
???????????????? heaven05 Aug 2012 #82
But of course racism is a part of that same sexual frustration. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #120
I agree with you on this analysis. FarPoint Aug 2012 #137
You're totally missing my point twizzler Aug 2012 #42
no, probably not lapfog_1 Aug 2012 #55
I threw in machette as a tongue in cheek comment twizzler Aug 2012 #57
I get your point -- you like guns, and want to protect your access to them. Hoyt Aug 2012 #60
Apparently you don't like reading my comments twizzler Aug 2012 #73
your fellow tiny elvis Aug 2012 #134
My fellow? twizzler Aug 2012 #135
comrade, brother, self appointed militia colleague tiny elvis Aug 2012 #145
Care to put that to a test? primavera Aug 2012 #140
What are you talking about twizzler Aug 2012 #141
Kind of depends dontcha think? iamthebandfanman Aug 2012 #36
I beg to differ with you twizzler Aug 2012 #44
well heaven05 Aug 2012 #90
I totally agree with you about better screening twizzler Aug 2012 #93
yeah heaven05 Aug 2012 #103
what we are saying is that this nation is flooded with guns and that guns make it easy Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #128
Guns are part of the problem, never denied that twizzler Aug 2012 #130
Greater than 90 percent of the time these twisted mzmolly Aug 2012 #47
That's true twizzler Aug 2012 #53
The killers in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan are politically motivated. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #85
Lets not forget all of Cheney's DWI's. FarPoint Aug 2012 #139
Guns are far more user friendly to bad guys MightyMopar Aug 2012 #49
always sick and twisted? heaven05 Aug 2012 #66
If you mean the hate generated by groups and individuals twizzler Aug 2012 #81
Correction 'by Right Wing groups'! sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #88
Correction duly noted twizzler Aug 2012 #96
Just a tool... Plucketeer Aug 2012 #72
Way to miss the point twizzler Aug 2012 #78
Right - way to miss the point Plucketeer Aug 2012 #87
It's a deadly tool chosen by an overwhelming number of killers, responsible for tens of thousands sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #97
Still missing my point so I will say it one more time twizzler Aug 2012 #105
Take it easy Plucketeer Aug 2012 #121
This is exactly what I mean twizzler Aug 2012 #125
Well, you're Right about that Plucketeer Aug 2012 #136
Let's not forget twizzler Aug 2012 #138
Poisonings Plucketeer Aug 2012 #148
Maybe you don't know what enable means? harmonicon Aug 2012 #123
I also disagree docgee Aug 2012 #43
And, several thousand yahoos will buy another "assault/tactical" gun this week. Hoyt Aug 2012 #62
If their legally qualified twizzler Aug 2012 #75
That's what gun culture would have said about Zimmerman, Holmes, Loughner, Stawicki, etc., right Hoyt Aug 2012 #89
I never enjoyed shooting the breeze with anyone about guns twizzler Aug 2012 #102
I'm not "pretending" -- you are like many pro-gunners who appear when tragedies like this occur to Hoyt Aug 2012 #104
You need to learn how to read twizzler Aug 2012 #106
Would help if you'd stop saying you are "not pro-gun" when all your posts indicate otherwise. Hoyt Aug 2012 #127
Utter crap twizzler Aug 2012 #129
yeah heaven05 Aug 2012 #94
I am sure the victims of Missycim Aug 2012 #51
The guy was also a musician... HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #70
If there were guitars manufactured to kill people and appeal to their baser instincts -- Yes. Hoyt Aug 2012 #99
Legal Gun Owner. nt onehandle Aug 2012 #3
How do we know he was a legal gun owner twizzler Aug 2012 #9
CNN report it maddezmom Aug 2012 #11
Thanks. twizzler Aug 2012 #17
News conference about to start...you can watch it here maddezmom Aug 2012 #21
gun was purchased legally but didn't say if Page was the person that purchased the gun maddezmom Aug 2012 #39
I've heard that his discharge from the military was something other than honorable slackmaster Aug 2012 #76
Not dishonorable--general (pattern of misconduct). MADem Aug 2012 #91
What type of gun or guns were used? Just curious /nt think Aug 2012 #32
Per ATF, it was a 9mm with "several magazines" Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #61
Thank you. /nt think Aug 2012 #65
I see all that extra weapons training iamthebandfanman Aug 2012 #33
I think the Army might have some explaining to do about how someone this disturbed was a candidate Tanuki Aug 2012 #4
Morning news says he was in the Army from '92-'98. PavePusher Aug 2012 #6
Good point--a lot could happen to anyone in 14 years. eom Tanuki Aug 2012 #8
He could have been the skivvie stacker for the Psyops team. Without his record, we know nothing. MADem Aug 2012 #20
in this case, the psy-ops job iemitsu Aug 2012 #48
That's it, I'm buying more stock in aluminium foil companies. n/t PavePusher Aug 2012 #67
The psyops training could hold a key. Was he a subject in any experiments? JDPriestly Aug 2012 #86
I thought I heard on CNN that he was a twizzler Aug 2012 #108
That makes more sense. Thanks. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #118
Surprise, surprise, surprise. nt raccoon Aug 2012 #7
The Army recruited a white supremacist to serve in their Psychological Operations? Terrific. yardwork Aug 2012 #12
Well the U.S. Army exboyfil Aug 2012 #13
He served in a peacetime military, never saw combat, and they kicked him out. MADem Aug 2012 #16
He was still recruited into PsyOps. Explain that. Maybe it's a feature not a bug. yardwork Aug 2012 #18
He probably wasn't a white supremacist twizzler Aug 2012 #22
He was a frigging recruit assigned to a unit. Do you know what he did there? MADem Aug 2012 #24
Stating facts is not broadbrushing. He was recuited into the Army's PsyOps division. yardwork Aug 2012 #26
I imagine he may have been a super-secret cafeteria worker... LanternWaste Aug 2012 #28
This is a broadbrush implication: He was still recruited into PsyOps. Explain that. Maybe it's a MADem Aug 2012 #29
The U.S. military has acknowledged that it has a problem with white supremacists in its ranks. yardwork Aug 2012 #30
Make up your mind. First it's a "feature" they recruit for, then it's a "problem?" MADem Aug 2012 #38
+1 n/t LarryNM Aug 2012 #56
He also used Colgate.. snooper2 Aug 2012 #35
Those Colgate users....they're all alike, you know. MADem Aug 2012 #40
There is nothing special about PsyOps hack89 Aug 2012 #50
We don't know what he did in PsyOps from 1992 to 1998. We can speculate that it was benign, but why? yardwork Aug 2012 #54
Oh, come off it. He had a "pattern of misconduct" and was drunk on duty and got busted for it. MADem Aug 2012 #68
I think it's a bit unfair to characterize this guy as an Army vet--he was kicked out of the Army, MADem Aug 2012 #15
Execellent analysist twizzler Aug 2012 #19
good points. I've updated my OP to reflect this info. maddezmom Aug 2012 #23
Pattern of misconduct; reduction in rank--what a prize! MADem Aug 2012 #27
In the world according to TahitiNut, TahitiNut Aug 2012 #45
He got a general, I believe. MADem Aug 2012 #52
Yes, I'm a Viet Nam vet and understand this. TahitiNut Aug 2012 #58
Gay people commonly got "general" discharges....if the commander authorizing the discharge was not MADem Aug 2012 #83
yeah heaven05 Aug 2012 #79
well heaven05 Aug 2012 #95
What!? You mean all that extra training with a weapon iamthebandfanman Aug 2012 #31
He will end Apathy, allright formercia Aug 2012 #34
So I wonder what the NRA has to say about this? WhoIsNumberNone Aug 2012 #46
'Woo Hoo!' onehandle Aug 2012 #69
14 for Lane's 14 words inside a celtic cross. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #59
Ruby--I understand you have some expertise with SPLC on this topic, could you expound? MADem Aug 2012 #84
Some of the most common White Nationalist themes center Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #101
What a bunch of cretinous losers! MADem Aug 2012 #109
I always thought WN symbols looked like jailhouse tats. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #110
When I worked the gang detail twizzler Aug 2012 #111
Phenomenal organization. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #115
???? heaven05 Aug 2012 #63
But he is not a terrorist Smilo Aug 2012 #64
yep heaven05 Aug 2012 #98
some of the troopers at stormfront are not happy about this shooting madrchsod Aug 2012 #71
please heaven05 Aug 2012 #100
It may be because Page is directly linked to Stormfront now. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #126
thanks for posting the responsible for equality website madrchsod Aug 2012 #131
Paranoia: Expect a wave of conspiracy stuff, based on the defunct PsyOps connection. patrice Aug 2012 #74
PsyOps itself is racist Ash_F Aug 2012 #107
I can guess how that might be a natural progression in that environment. Recall also how patrice Aug 2012 #116
Aurora shooter James Holmes was working on Neuro Control projects.... lib2DaBone Aug 2012 #147
At least there is one less of these miserable bastards to worry about. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2012 #92
True that twizzler Aug 2012 #112
It's amazing to me... Fawks121 Aug 2012 #113
Good first post twizzler Aug 2012 #114
Yep. We're all supposed to "consider" gun rights but IGNORE the basic premise of gun advocacy: patrice Aug 2012 #117
What if SC hadn't given the election to Bush 2 twizzler Aug 2012 #122
Chain E-mails propagate hate LiberalProudofIt Aug 2012 #119
That's the problem. CJCRANE Aug 2012 #132
Look up George Lakoff for the Democratic counterpoint Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #142
Guns enable people to do massive damage with minimal effort triplepoint Aug 2012 #124
That's why sick, hateful people love them. Hoyt Aug 2012 #133
" He was a psychological operations specialist and missile repairman'' YOHABLO Aug 2012 #143
Nice slap at us vets twizzler Aug 2012 #144
I'm willing to bet there are not many Nazi's named Wade.... n/t Moltisanti Aug 2012 #146
Why can't the reasons for his discharge preclude him from being allowed to purchase arms? IndyJones Aug 2012 #149
A general discharge is not "other than honorable" or "dishonorable." MADem Aug 2012 #150
True, but I thought I read that he was discharged because of behavior issues. IndyJones Aug 2012 #151
Yes. "Pattern of misconduct" that culminated in a reduction in rank for being drunk on duty. MADem Aug 2012 #154
He did a hitch in the Army in the distant 1990s, odd that it is used so much as a vital description. braddy Aug 2012 #153
Peacetime military....a totally different world. The war back then was the Cold War. nt MADem Aug 2012 #155
The Cold War ended before he served. braddy Aug 2012 #158
Yeah, you're right--he even missed THAT by a year! nt MADem Aug 2012 #159
Wade Michael Page: Excessive drinking cost Sikh temple shooter his military career, civilian job maddezmom Aug 2012 #157
Job loss, financial trouble, foreclosure....and violence. MindPilot Aug 2012 #161
America is not taking it's white supremacy problem serious enough. Sick of the GOP Aug 2012 #160
Absolutely Fawks121 Aug 2012 #162
Are we surprised by this?! Carolina Aug 2012 #163
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