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In reply to the discussion: Shooter, Wade Page, was Army vet, white supremacist [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)52. He got a general, I believe.
A general discharge can be for any one of a number of reasons, and it is also "upgradable." One can petition after a few years following discharge for an upgrade to the discharge to "honorable." People who need VA care do this on occasion.
A "general" discharge is neither honorable nor dishonorable.
It sits firmly in a gray area of neither/nor. If you had to phrase it in casualspeak, "It is what it is."
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Unfortunately, Page was not drummed out of the military for being a white supremacist.
yardwork
Aug 2012
#164
A sick twisted mind and a bunch of guns -- they all go together and produce what we have here.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#25
what we are saying is that this nation is flooded with guns and that guns make it easy
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2012
#128
It's a deadly tool chosen by an overwhelming number of killers, responsible for tens of thousands
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#97
That's what gun culture would have said about Zimmerman, Holmes, Loughner, Stawicki, etc., right
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#89
I'm not "pretending" -- you are like many pro-gunners who appear when tragedies like this occur to
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#104
Would help if you'd stop saying you are "not pro-gun" when all your posts indicate otherwise.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#127
If there were guitars manufactured to kill people and appeal to their baser instincts -- Yes.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#99
gun was purchased legally but didn't say if Page was the person that purchased the gun
maddezmom
Aug 2012
#39
I've heard that his discharge from the military was something other than honorable
slackmaster
Aug 2012
#76
I think the Army might have some explaining to do about how someone this disturbed was a candidate
Tanuki
Aug 2012
#4
He could have been the skivvie stacker for the Psyops team. Without his record, we know nothing.
MADem
Aug 2012
#20
The Army recruited a white supremacist to serve in their Psychological Operations? Terrific.
yardwork
Aug 2012
#12
He was still recruited into PsyOps. Explain that. Maybe it's a feature not a bug.
yardwork
Aug 2012
#18
Stating facts is not broadbrushing. He was recuited into the Army's PsyOps division.
yardwork
Aug 2012
#26
This is a broadbrush implication: He was still recruited into PsyOps. Explain that. Maybe it's a
MADem
Aug 2012
#29
The U.S. military has acknowledged that it has a problem with white supremacists in its ranks.
yardwork
Aug 2012
#30
Make up your mind. First it's a "feature" they recruit for, then it's a "problem?"
MADem
Aug 2012
#38
We don't know what he did in PsyOps from 1992 to 1998. We can speculate that it was benign, but why?
yardwork
Aug 2012
#54
Oh, come off it. He had a "pattern of misconduct" and was drunk on duty and got busted for it.
MADem
Aug 2012
#68
I think it's a bit unfair to characterize this guy as an Army vet--he was kicked out of the Army,
MADem
Aug 2012
#15
Gay people commonly got "general" discharges....if the commander authorizing the discharge was not
MADem
Aug 2012
#83
Ruby--I understand you have some expertise with SPLC on this topic, could you expound?
MADem
Aug 2012
#84
Paranoia: Expect a wave of conspiracy stuff, based on the defunct PsyOps connection.
patrice
Aug 2012
#74
I can guess how that might be a natural progression in that environment. Recall also how
patrice
Aug 2012
#116
At least there is one less of these miserable bastards to worry about.
The_Casual_Observer
Aug 2012
#92
Yep. We're all supposed to "consider" gun rights but IGNORE the basic premise of gun advocacy:
patrice
Aug 2012
#117
Why can't the reasons for his discharge preclude him from being allowed to purchase arms?
IndyJones
Aug 2012
#149
True, but I thought I read that he was discharged because of behavior issues.
IndyJones
Aug 2012
#151
Yes. "Pattern of misconduct" that culminated in a reduction in rank for being drunk on duty.
MADem
Aug 2012
#154
He did a hitch in the Army in the distant 1990s, odd that it is used so much as a vital description.
braddy
Aug 2012
#153
Peacetime military....a totally different world. The war back then was the Cold War. nt
MADem
Aug 2012
#155
Wade Michael Page: Excessive drinking cost Sikh temple shooter his military career, civilian job
maddezmom
Aug 2012
#157