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56. Pelosi's Position

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 07:20 PM

Sep 2017

Is the equivalent of Scott Pruitt saying the now is not the time to discuss climate change while we're going through the largest hurricanes ever in the Atlantic basin; or the NRA saying discussing gun control after a mass shooting is the wrong time.

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Pelosi declines to endorse Sen. Bernie Sanders' single-payer healthcare bill [View all] George II Sep 2017 OP

Yes. AND because one way of getting single-payer would be to shore up the ACA pnwmom Sep 2017 #1

definitely DBoon Sep 2017 #2

But right now it's a distraction. We need to be tactical like Pelosi is doing. We can do strategic iluvtennis Sep 2017 #27

I think Pelosi could do two things at once and chew gum. rgbecker Sep 2017 #44

+1 tecelote Sep 2017 #45

Why muddy the waters now? Democrats should be fighting against the constant onslaught... George II Sep 2017 #59

This is why we never make progress - I think Pelosi is protecting the insurance companies adigal Sep 2017 #47

You are right! Our best hope rainy Sep 2017 #76

No, she's protecting the ACA, which can be the foundation for single-payer if it doesn't pnwmom Sep 2017 #100

That actually is the best way, and was also the original intention when the ACA became law... George II Sep 2017 #3

Original intention? Do you have a source that actually KPN Sep 2017 #10

I think that was well documented. George II Sep 2017 #12

Maybe well supposed, but documented? KPN Sep 2017 #15

I look at this Medicare for All as trying to "make it better" JonLP24 Sep 2017 #43

The ACA took us down the road a long way towards Universal Health Care Coverage ehrnst Sep 2017 #4

Exactly! sheshe2 Sep 2017 #11

When do you think the ACA will be shored up and the "public option" added ? Autumn Sep 2017 #97

indeed. i was about to post that too. drray23 Sep 2017 #104

Miss Nancy be like "first things first" I agree with her that underthematrix Sep 2017 #5

I like that way of putting it, thanks. George II Sep 2017 #8

I like this! sheshe2 Sep 2017 #19

The compromise would be... thesquanderer Sep 2017 #6

I agree. That could be a way of doing it. Unfortunately, some people on both sides have been pnwmom Sep 2017 #9

Shelby Foote Snackshack Sep 2017 #78

compromise isn't a word in repuglican politics mdbl Sep 2017 #81

How do you think we'd ever pass single payer then? n/t pnwmom Sep 2017 #82

with the current house, senate and white house, you won't mdbl Sep 2017 #83

You don't get "really big" things simply by wishing for them. pnwmom Sep 2017 #85

Did you have a republican house senate and white house during that time? mdbl Sep 2017 #86

How do you think that single payer could possibly pass with a Republican House and Senate? pnwmom Sep 2017 #89

As I said two posts ago, it won't mdbl Sep 2017 #90

No, if you have the public buy into the idea that the only acceptable plan is single payer, pnwmom Sep 2017 #91

Well, the strategy you advocate has been going on for a long time now to no avail mdbl Sep 2017 #105

No, it's not been to no avail. We have the ACA now and it was a big advance for millions of people. pnwmom Sep 2017 #106

I haven't argued with you that the ACA wasn't a big advance mdbl Sep 2017 #107

You just said that the Dems strategy was to no avail. What did you mean by that? pnwmom Sep 2017 #108

The Dems strategy wasn't originally the ACA, it was the Heritage Foundation's strategy mdbl Sep 2017 #109

Why do you say "you" instead of "we"? This is a site for Democrats, not people who denigrate them pnwmom Sep 2017 #110

"you was a typo and it was corrected" mdbl Sep 2017 #111

The real threat to the ACA is the squeeze it's putting on a certain income group mdbl Sep 2017 #84

Do you know how much Medicare cost? underthematrix Sep 2017 #18

Right now my wife and I each pay $120 per month (deducted from Social Security) and.... George II Sep 2017 #22

If you were paying $150/month under ACA... thesquanderer Sep 2017 #46

Nope I don't receive Medicaid. I ONLY receive MEDICARE and I'm underthematrix Sep 2017 #71

medicare is not adequate Blackjackdavey Sep 2017 #67

You bring up an interesting point, area51 Sep 2017 #79

That's pretty much what Howard Dean said wryter2000 Sep 2017 #38

I think that many Dems fear that not endorsing Single Payer will put them in the position ehrnst Sep 2017 #7

Yeah, I think that they need to see how the proposal fares bettyellen Sep 2017 #63

Congresswoman Barbara Lee (D-CA) is having a conference call tonight BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #13

I agree with Nancy's decision. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #14

I'll take it one step further... chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #24

That goes without saying.... sheshe2 Sep 2017 #26

And work on impeachment if the House & Senate is taken back JonLP24 Sep 2017 #41

Her reasoning makes sense. I don't think we'll ever get to single payer w/o the ACA CousinIT Sep 2017 #16

Good for Nancy. We have to protect what we have leftofcool Sep 2017 #17

it makes no sense to do Skidmore Sep 2017 #29

Because she's a smart leader. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #20

Sensible approach .. which will be excoriated ... JHan Sep 2017 #21

From the link ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #23

What are you saying, that she's not sincere in what she said? George II Sep 2017 #30

I'm quoting the article n/t left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #32

Pelosi has proven herself to be politically savvy. PdxSean Sep 2017 #31

I thank God everyday for our Democratic leaders left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #33

Wedge issue? Between Dems and fearful conservatives, perhaps. TryLogic Sep 2017 #51

K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #25

were Hillary President orangecrush Sep 2017 #28

Were Hillary president, folks like you and me wouldnt go to bed Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #34

You are correct orangecrush Sep 2017 #92

With a GOP house and Senate? progressoid Sep 2017 #35

We would not be. She did not want single-payer AllyCat Sep 2017 #37

She said it would "never, ever come to pass." n/t QC Sep 2017 #57

Especially if no one asks for it. The people want it. AllyCat Sep 2017 #66

Yet. George II Sep 2017 #60

No, we wouldn't alarimer Sep 2017 #69

I think we can walk and chew gum at the same time AllyCat Sep 2017 #36

Yes. nt Lucky Luciano Sep 2017 #39

If she signed on she would have some clout on saving the ACA bahrbearian Sep 2017 #98

I'm glad to see that voices of reason and sensibility prevail on this thread. NBachers Sep 2017 #40

This single payer bill has zero chance of passage; it only serves to divide Dems. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #42

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #48

"HRC is out selling books"? First, "HRC", Hillary Clinton, is a private citizen. Second.... George II Sep 2017 #50

So nice of you to call me a cultist. Cary Sep 2017 #53

Oh yeah , here we go, the "corporate dems" canard. JHan Sep 2017 #54

Hopefull this has to do with timing primarily. But I'm not sure what to expect from her. TryLogic Sep 2017 #49

Inasmuch as the ACA is under constant assault by republicans, I doubt very much.... George II Sep 2017 #52

Good for you, Nancy. murielm99 Sep 2017 #55

Pelosi's Position Ccarmona Sep 2017 #56

No it isn't. And I wouldn't utter Nancy Pelosi's name in a sentence with Pruitt and the NRA. George II Sep 2017 #58

So Ccarmona Sep 2017 #61

Unless 67% of the House and the Senate say that, it won't happen. trump will veto it. George II Sep 2017 #62

You Didn't Answer My Question Ccarmona Sep 2017 #64

Article I, Section 7. George II Sep 2017 #65

It is about health care as a RIGHT. alarimer Sep 2017 #68

Didn't you say that you're on Medicare? n/t QC Sep 2017 #70

Yes. Why do you ask? Even though I'm covered by Medicare, the ACA is important... George II Sep 2017 #72

What has been your experience with it? n/t QC Sep 2017 #73

Again, why do you ask? George II Sep 2017 #74

She is not progressive Puppyjive Sep 2017 #75

I agree with you wholeheartedly Kimchijeon Sep 2017 #80

Yes... Snackshack Sep 2017 #77

When Clinton-care failed in early 1990s, it was almost 20 years before anyone would touch Hoyt Sep 2017 #87

As I pointed out somewhere else, it's going to take 67% George II Sep 2017 #93

I guess this means... Mike Nelson Sep 2017 #88

The two are not exclusionary. Pelosi is protecting rank and file House Dem's that take harun Sep 2017 #94

There are NO "rank and file House Dems that take health care dollars"! That would be illegal. George II Sep 2017 #95

This is Murica Baby! harun Sep 2017 #96

This is why we lose. nt PassingFair Sep 2017 #99

Who needs Pelosi GaryCnf Sep 2017 #101

This is such bullshit DiverDave Sep 2017 #102

K&R. lunamagica Sep 2017 #103