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31. Pelosi has proven herself to be politically savvy.

Reply to left-of-center2012 (Reply #23)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 04:32 PM

Sep 2017

We wouldn't have Obamacare without Pelosi. Few Democrats can hold a candle to her proven experience and legislative accomplishments. THAT is why republicans relentlessly attack her. The idea that single payer is being offered when Republicans control all three branches begs a similar question: Why the urgency to push a wedge issue when Democrats are at a weak point politically?

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Pelosi declines to endorse Sen. Bernie Sanders' single-payer healthcare bill [View all] George II Sep 2017 OP

Yes. AND because one way of getting single-payer would be to shore up the ACA pnwmom Sep 2017 #1

definitely DBoon Sep 2017 #2

But right now it's a distraction. We need to be tactical like Pelosi is doing. We can do strategic iluvtennis Sep 2017 #27

I think Pelosi could do two things at once and chew gum. rgbecker Sep 2017 #44

+1 tecelote Sep 2017 #45

Why muddy the waters now? Democrats should be fighting against the constant onslaught... George II Sep 2017 #59

This is why we never make progress - I think Pelosi is protecting the insurance companies adigal Sep 2017 #47

You are right! Our best hope rainy Sep 2017 #76

No, she's protecting the ACA, which can be the foundation for single-payer if it doesn't pnwmom Sep 2017 #100

That actually is the best way, and was also the original intention when the ACA became law... George II Sep 2017 #3

Original intention? Do you have a source that actually KPN Sep 2017 #10

I think that was well documented. George II Sep 2017 #12

Maybe well supposed, but documented? KPN Sep 2017 #15

I look at this Medicare for All as trying to "make it better" JonLP24 Sep 2017 #43

The ACA took us down the road a long way towards Universal Health Care Coverage ehrnst Sep 2017 #4

Exactly! sheshe2 Sep 2017 #11

When do you think the ACA will be shored up and the "public option" added ? Autumn Sep 2017 #97

indeed. i was about to post that too. drray23 Sep 2017 #104

Miss Nancy be like "first things first" I agree with her that underthematrix Sep 2017 #5

I like that way of putting it, thanks. George II Sep 2017 #8

I like this! sheshe2 Sep 2017 #19

The compromise would be... thesquanderer Sep 2017 #6

I agree. That could be a way of doing it. Unfortunately, some people on both sides have been pnwmom Sep 2017 #9

Shelby Foote Snackshack Sep 2017 #78

compromise isn't a word in repuglican politics mdbl Sep 2017 #81

How do you think we'd ever pass single payer then? n/t pnwmom Sep 2017 #82

with the current house, senate and white house, you won't mdbl Sep 2017 #83

You don't get "really big" things simply by wishing for them. pnwmom Sep 2017 #85

Did you have a republican house senate and white house during that time? mdbl Sep 2017 #86

How do you think that single payer could possibly pass with a Republican House and Senate? pnwmom Sep 2017 #89

As I said two posts ago, it won't mdbl Sep 2017 #90

No, if you have the public buy into the idea that the only acceptable plan is single payer, pnwmom Sep 2017 #91

Well, the strategy you advocate has been going on for a long time now to no avail mdbl Sep 2017 #105

No, it's not been to no avail. We have the ACA now and it was a big advance for millions of people. pnwmom Sep 2017 #106

I haven't argued with you that the ACA wasn't a big advance mdbl Sep 2017 #107

You just said that the Dems strategy was to no avail. What did you mean by that? pnwmom Sep 2017 #108

The Dems strategy wasn't originally the ACA, it was the Heritage Foundation's strategy mdbl Sep 2017 #109

Why do you say "you" instead of "we"? This is a site for Democrats, not people who denigrate them pnwmom Sep 2017 #110

"you was a typo and it was corrected" mdbl Sep 2017 #111

The real threat to the ACA is the squeeze it's putting on a certain income group mdbl Sep 2017 #84

Do you know how much Medicare cost? underthematrix Sep 2017 #18

Right now my wife and I each pay $120 per month (deducted from Social Security) and.... George II Sep 2017 #22

If you were paying $150/month under ACA... thesquanderer Sep 2017 #46

Nope I don't receive Medicaid. I ONLY receive MEDICARE and I'm underthematrix Sep 2017 #71

medicare is not adequate Blackjackdavey Sep 2017 #67

You bring up an interesting point, area51 Sep 2017 #79

That's pretty much what Howard Dean said wryter2000 Sep 2017 #38

I think that many Dems fear that not endorsing Single Payer will put them in the position ehrnst Sep 2017 #7

Yeah, I think that they need to see how the proposal fares bettyellen Sep 2017 #63

Congresswoman Barbara Lee (D-CA) is having a conference call tonight BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #13

I agree with Nancy's decision. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #14

I'll take it one step further... chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #24

That goes without saying.... sheshe2 Sep 2017 #26

And work on impeachment if the House & Senate is taken back JonLP24 Sep 2017 #41

Her reasoning makes sense. I don't think we'll ever get to single payer w/o the ACA CousinIT Sep 2017 #16

Good for Nancy. We have to protect what we have leftofcool Sep 2017 #17

it makes no sense to do Skidmore Sep 2017 #29

Because she's a smart leader. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #20

Sensible approach .. which will be excoriated ... JHan Sep 2017 #21

From the link ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #23

What are you saying, that she's not sincere in what she said? George II Sep 2017 #30

I'm quoting the article n/t left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #32

Pelosi has proven herself to be politically savvy. PdxSean Sep 2017 #31

I thank God everyday for our Democratic leaders left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #33

Wedge issue? Between Dems and fearful conservatives, perhaps. TryLogic Sep 2017 #51

K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #25

were Hillary President orangecrush Sep 2017 #28

Were Hillary president, folks like you and me wouldnt go to bed Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #34

You are correct orangecrush Sep 2017 #92

With a GOP house and Senate? progressoid Sep 2017 #35

We would not be. She did not want single-payer AllyCat Sep 2017 #37

She said it would "never, ever come to pass." n/t QC Sep 2017 #57

Especially if no one asks for it. The people want it. AllyCat Sep 2017 #66

Yet. George II Sep 2017 #60

No, we wouldn't alarimer Sep 2017 #69

I think we can walk and chew gum at the same time AllyCat Sep 2017 #36

Yes. nt Lucky Luciano Sep 2017 #39

If she signed on she would have some clout on saving the ACA bahrbearian Sep 2017 #98

I'm glad to see that voices of reason and sensibility prevail on this thread. NBachers Sep 2017 #40

This single payer bill has zero chance of passage; it only serves to divide Dems. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #42

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #48

"HRC is out selling books"? First, "HRC", Hillary Clinton, is a private citizen. Second.... George II Sep 2017 #50

So nice of you to call me a cultist. Cary Sep 2017 #53

Oh yeah , here we go, the "corporate dems" canard. JHan Sep 2017 #54

Hopefull this has to do with timing primarily. But I'm not sure what to expect from her. TryLogic Sep 2017 #49

Inasmuch as the ACA is under constant assault by republicans, I doubt very much.... George II Sep 2017 #52

Good for you, Nancy. murielm99 Sep 2017 #55

Pelosi's Position Ccarmona Sep 2017 #56

No it isn't. And I wouldn't utter Nancy Pelosi's name in a sentence with Pruitt and the NRA. George II Sep 2017 #58

So Ccarmona Sep 2017 #61

Unless 67% of the House and the Senate say that, it won't happen. trump will veto it. George II Sep 2017 #62

You Didn't Answer My Question Ccarmona Sep 2017 #64

Article I, Section 7. George II Sep 2017 #65

It is about health care as a RIGHT. alarimer Sep 2017 #68

Didn't you say that you're on Medicare? n/t QC Sep 2017 #70

Yes. Why do you ask? Even though I'm covered by Medicare, the ACA is important... George II Sep 2017 #72

What has been your experience with it? n/t QC Sep 2017 #73

Again, why do you ask? George II Sep 2017 #74

She is not progressive Puppyjive Sep 2017 #75

I agree with you wholeheartedly Kimchijeon Sep 2017 #80

Yes... Snackshack Sep 2017 #77

When Clinton-care failed in early 1990s, it was almost 20 years before anyone would touch Hoyt Sep 2017 #87

As I pointed out somewhere else, it's going to take 67% George II Sep 2017 #93

I guess this means... Mike Nelson Sep 2017 #88

The two are not exclusionary. Pelosi is protecting rank and file House Dem's that take harun Sep 2017 #94

There are NO "rank and file House Dems that take health care dollars"! That would be illegal. George II Sep 2017 #95

This is Murica Baby! harun Sep 2017 #96

This is why we lose. nt PassingFair Sep 2017 #99

Who needs Pelosi GaryCnf Sep 2017 #101

This is such bullshit DiverDave Sep 2017 #102

K&R. lunamagica Sep 2017 #103