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Mass Shooting at Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin [View all] Whoa_Nelly Aug 2012 OP

Bald white male with multiple guns!? villager Aug 2012 #1

You mean this guy? grahamhgreen Aug 2012 #10

That is a rifle... Keefer Aug 2012 #29

Nah! He never shot a man he didn't like n/t nichomachus Aug 2012 #50

Wayne LaPierre (on the left) began as a legislative aide to Democratic Virginia Delegate Vic Thomas AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #97

Yeah, it's probably a perfect time to join the pro-gun culture Doctor_J Aug 2012 #173

Bill Clinton seems to have some expertise. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #176

Obama has pandered to the NRA Doctor_J Aug 2012 #181

Although mentioning "the NRA" is a dog-whistle to some, it has no effect on me because AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #183

The guy on the right looks like he is already fantasizing about being alone with that gun. RC Aug 2012 #98

Well, those are definitely domestic terrorists... villager Aug 2012 #131

Local Police Scanner link Whoa_Nelly Aug 2012 #2

Thanks for the link. nt CJCRANE Aug 2012 #71

Another Moment of Silence - Guns otohara Aug 2012 #3

Sikhs believe in the brotherhood of man, and equality of all. The shooter must have seen his turban, alfredo Aug 2012 #4

That was my 1st thought. JohnnyRingo Aug 2012 #57

+1 eom BlueMTexpat Aug 2012 #59

Ignorance and a gun is a bad mix. alfredo Aug 2012 #114

how about sisterhood of women? Skittles Aug 2012 #125

Equality of women in Sikhism GliderGuider Aug 2012 #155

In their case brotherhood includes both genders. alfredo Aug 2012 #171

My thoughts and prayers Smilo Aug 2012 #5

The perpetrator probably mistook it for a mosque slackmaster Aug 2012 #6

Regardless of the shooter possibly making any associative mistakes Whoa_Nelly Aug 2012 #14

Or something equally dumb. AlbertCat Aug 2012 #20

$100 that this guy is a wingnut bigot who mistook Sikhs for Muslims. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #7

Yep. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #9

That's probably a given. Although it's also possible he just thought anyone non-Christian & foreign scarletwoman Aug 2012 #18

I remember after 9/11 hearing that a lot of Sikhs were harassed... Odin2005 Aug 2012 #24

A Sikh man was murdered right after 9/11. yardwork Aug 2012 #52

In Texas an idiot shot a gas station owner right after 9/11 Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #54

I believe another was killed in Phoenix, too. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #101

i think that guy was executed a couple of years ago or even more recently nt arely staircase Aug 2012 #140

Yup... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #148

i think one of the guys he shot but survived said he didn't think he should be executed JI7 Aug 2012 #151

crap like that happened in my city... madrchsod Aug 2012 #110

Easy bet. sarge43 Aug 2012 #22

My bet on that one would be "first talking head to appear, period." (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #23

Not going to bet against that harun Aug 2012 #34

And hates women and children apparently. lonestarnot Aug 2012 #66

+1 Shankapotomus Aug 2012 #73

That's an interesting description of the perp TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #8

It's pretty mcuh a stereotype, innit? Odin2005 Aug 2012 #16

Another 'if the shoe fits' situation, I suspect. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #17

Stereotyping is a basic cognitive process, helps us function in unfamiliar contexts, like a patrice Aug 2012 #113

That's horrific. I hope they find the perp. No doubt he has a trial of rants online they can trace. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #11

"Disgruntled white men" = racist AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #51

Um Okay. You're right.. there are NO angry white men who blame people of other races. n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #61

Wrong. In fact, I think that "angry white men who blame people of other races" can be KKK members AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #84

Us poor maligned white guys. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #62

Well, it's not all bad. Nor are white guys always maligned. Some religious worshippers belief that AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #104

FAIL. Going postal on your ex-supervisor != emptying a gun into a place of worship. KamaAina Aug 2012 #78

Um, FAIL yourself. "Disgruntled white men" != either "Going postal on your ex-supervisor" or AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #83

thank you. nicely put. n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #116

Oh boy. I am appalled at this. mysuzuki2 Aug 2012 #12

There is a Sikh who lives in my apartment building. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #28

My god. Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #13

Police scanner reporting fires breaking out in the temple Whoa_Nelly Aug 2012 #15

Abandoned food burning on the stove, according to the scanner. Adsos Letter Aug 2012 #27

Thanks EOM Whoa_Nelly Aug 2012 #35

du rec. nt xchrom Aug 2012 #19

Say a prayer. Don C. Nuttin Aug 2012 #21

What a conversation! AlbertCat Aug 2012 #25

An unfathomable event, indeed. Don C. Nuttin Aug 2012 #36

And I certainly do not elevate my prayers to the level of God's wisdom. AlbertCat Aug 2012 #42

Peace. Don C. Nuttin Aug 2012 #46

They are indeed the same G-d azurnoir Aug 2012 #90

"the same G-d"? A male bipod who looks just like us? Except for being invisible? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #99

actually that depiction G-d is from Christianity azurnoir Aug 2012 #117

Interesting. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #122

I think it is the Jesus thing azurnoir Aug 2012 #128

And (I'm not making this up) Mormons apparently believe that Satan is the brother of Jesus. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #134

The joy is that we can regularly have these conversations in this country exboyfil Aug 2012 #108

Maybe Shiva, the Hindu God of Destruction, was listening? (Shiva is the God coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #161

As-Samia (All Hearing) harun Aug 2012 #38

Thank you. Don C. Nuttin Aug 2012 #39

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #48

Peace. Don C. Nuttin Aug 2012 #55

No thank you harun Aug 2012 #103

I believe God hears all prayers DesertRat Aug 2012 #85

well you and your Sikh 'friend' are wrong very wrong azurnoir Aug 2012 #86

Well, okay. Don C. Nuttin Aug 2012 #91

Sikhs are not mentioned in the Quran because Sikhs emerged in the 15th century azurnoir Aug 2012 #95

Sikhs do not worship the Abrahamic god. independentpiney Aug 2012 #120

it's not the guns 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #26

I tend to agree with you twizzler Aug 2012 #32

......because those ragheads did 9-11...... kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #138

Totally agree twizzler Aug 2012 #149

How many people could that guy take down at once with a knife or bat before being tackled? progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #41

+ One billion. Zoeisright Aug 2012 #56

Guns are people, my friend! Plucketeer Aug 2012 #82

I think a can of gasoline and some matches would do DBoon Aug 2012 #92

I'd rather take my chances with the can of gas primavera Aug 2012 #146

Yes, but it's the ease and convenience of weapons that are the issue. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #162

There are conflicting reports that there are 2 gunmen holding hostages DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2012 #30

Wouldn't be the first time. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2012 #31

"Reports indicate 12 Children being held Hostage by Militia Men in Sikh Temple" Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #33

Meanwhile the headline on Drudge? ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2012 #37

and yet the gun industry and gun culture rolls on and on Botany Aug 2012 #40

Oh but guns are sooo SEXY (barf) Every video, movie, tv show, that features guns glamorizes them. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #43

Bottom line is that it is RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE. bluedigger Aug 2012 #47

It's easier to attack the 2nd amendment LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #64

a violent gun-worshipping society makes hate much more deadly DBoon Aug 2012 #93

It's a cruel irony that a fundamental tenet of Sikhism is respect for all religions .... TahitiNut Aug 2012 #106

Sorry, but there are intolerant people EVERYWHERE, but the US is the place where they use guns progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #118

Cue the NRA to blame the person, his mother, and bad aiming Heather MC Aug 2012 #65

And the fact that the Sikh's didn't arm themselves properly Doctor_J Aug 2012 #174

That photo makes me sick Jessy169 Aug 2012 #80

Why? Did they have anything to do with this crime? n/t PavePusher Aug 2012 #87

yes Care Acutely Aug 2012 #121

+1 LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #127

In an indirect way, I believe yes, they did Jessy169 Aug 2012 #139

Obviously, we don't know the motivation for this shooting but... RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #44

I'm noticing the same thing. The chickens are coming home to roost. yardwork Aug 2012 #133

he shot a cop too. this is on cnn live right now IcyPeas Aug 2012 #45

Officer shot, will survive ... auntAgonist Aug 2012 #49

Sure are alot of PEOPLE killing lately.. iamthebandfanman Aug 2012 #53

yep, we're on track for a record year of mass shootings Jessy169 Aug 2012 #144

Prove to me that you didn't just make something up and post it slackmaster Aug 2012 #169

Well.. in the past four years, an astronomical number of guns have been sold in America. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #163

In spite of the fear-mongering, murders and other violent crimes have decreased for the past 4 years slackmaster Aug 2012 #167

K&R, sadly. WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2012 #58

If only Shadowflash Aug 2012 #60

Well, their (ceremonial) daggers are pretty useless against semi-automatic handguns. TahitiNut Aug 2012 #88

Even if he hadn't had a gun, JoeyT Aug 2012 #172

=More dead bodies gasser85 Aug 2012 #130

Yup. Shadowflash Aug 2012 #132

Another Christian Terrorist! citizen blues Aug 2012 #63

Nothing Christian about slaughter of the unarmed. Just nutfuckerian. lonestarnot Aug 2012 #69

CNN says UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #67

Police: Officer at Sikh temple shooting "put down" 1 shooter; no word on shooter's condition Whoa_Nelly Aug 2012 #68

Just more guns used for their intended purpose. nt onehandle Aug 2012 #70

Ignore the gun psychos, onehandle. slackmaster Aug 2012 #76

New York Times reports seven dead. Hissyspit Aug 2012 #72

6 victims dead, plus 1 gunman dead kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #74

Live feed at link: Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #75

Press release from the Indian embassy: kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #77

4 hours in and still nothing on Drudge. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2012 #79

Skinhead? BootinUp Aug 2012 #81

I can hardly handle this--very close to where I live & I know some who worship here! :-( hue Aug 2012 #89

hundreds of miles away handmade34 Aug 2012 #94

My new next door neighbor came over to see if our Dish was working. revolution breeze Aug 2012 #105

(((RB))) nt blaze Aug 2012 #150

Hopefully you didn't let him tune to Fox Lies Doctor_J Aug 2012 #177

My satellite was out too revolution breeze Aug 2012 #189

Even money he's a teabagging Michelle Bachmann groupie. Archae Aug 2012 #96

More likely a member or wannbe of the Aryan Nation EOM Whoa_Nelly Aug 2012 #100

Whatever he was, he's dead now and no longer a threat. alfredo Aug 2012 #115

Prayers upon prayers to everyone there Iliyah Aug 2012 #102

Yep. Mass murder has become that gun industry lobby's best money making scheme. onehandle Aug 2012 #107

McVeigh didn't use a gun. Archae Aug 2012 #111

And there hasn't been another McVeigh in 17 years Doctor_J Aug 2012 #178

Are you calling me a moron? Archae Aug 2012 #179

The Sikhs amongst my acquaintences are absolutely hands down the most peaceful people I know. patrice Aug 2012 #109

Seven dead. So, how many more need to die before we address gun control? AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #112

How many more need to die before you address GOP control? GliderGuider Aug 2012 #124

You and us both primavera Aug 2012 #142

Before we address racism? Before we address religious hatred? LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #129

Those too primavera Aug 2012 #147

Yes, but that's what I was saying LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #153

Gun control would be a hell of a lot easier than curing ignorance, extremism, and bigotry. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #154

Indeed. LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #156

Again. 7 humans dead by the existence of the GOP. BanTheGOP Aug 2012 #119

Would you stop making the same stupid-ass post Codeine Aug 2012 #145

Methinks he's both, liberalhistorian Aug 2012 #160

troll for sure, i thought he had been banned JI7 Aug 2012 #165

Crime rates have been falling for almost 20 years. The last four years are no different. slackmaster Aug 2012 #168

Nah, we don't need anymore gun control ... WTF MindMover Aug 2012 #123

Kick! n/t Tx4obama Aug 2012 #126

" A sikh must have the courage to defend the rights of all who are wrongfully brewens Aug 2012 #135

I pretty much guarantee you he did. I wonder what his FR handle was? kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #141

A moment of silence, please, for the victims of this senseless act of gun violence primavera Aug 2012 #136

FBI and ATF at a home in Cudahy, neighborhood being evacuated. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #137

Stoopit journalist on the live feed asked what "domestic terrorism" was. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #143

OMG get the red out Aug 2012 #152

She talked like a fresh young news babe. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #159

This is so sad... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #157

Well, I can see that everyone will have to give up their freedom to remain safe.... lib2DaBone Aug 2012 #158

I think people would do it too which scares me more than anything. Mojorabbit Aug 2012 #164

By "give up their right to be safe", Doctor_J Aug 2012 #182

So how do you propose to get rid of those 200 million guns? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #184

how do you propose to stop the shooting rampages? Doctor_J Aug 2012 #185

How about single payer health care with mental health coverage? nt hack89 Aug 2012 #186

about as likely as the gun ban the NRA is screaming about Doctor_J Aug 2012 #187

If you could devote your time and effort to health care or gun control which would you pick? hack89 Aug 2012 #188

It's hard to not come to the conclusion that this was a deranged act of hate davidpdx Aug 2012 #166

An interesting freeper post... sufrommich Aug 2012 #170

Something nearly identical has been or will be posted in the gungeon Doctor_J Aug 2012 #175

Of *course* they are, because no Real Progressives (TM) disagree with you! friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #180