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L. Coyote

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33. K & R. 40,000 switched votes flipped the Electoral College.

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 02:13 AM

Jul 2017

The great thing about a switched vote, IT COUNTS TWICE, add one to one column AND subtract one from the other column.

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Hackers Crack Voting Machines Within Minutes At DEF CON In Vegas [View all] .99center Jul 2017 OP

Jesus H. Christ. Time to call those Senators again! flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #1

It would be great to return to paper ballots and black pens. Frustratedlady Jul 2017 #2

It would also be a helluva lot cheaper. stevepal Jul 2017 #8

the budgets for the machines are enormous -- it's another example of taxpayer money being diva77 Jul 2017 #31

yep; TWO repug POTUSs who LOST the popular vote in 16 years? really?? not coincidence. nt TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #12

Been on a tear on this since 2000. WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2017 #18

Here's some more information from SC Magazine (Cybersecurity) Best_man23 Jul 2017 #3

Good idea. WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2017 #19

We need to repeat, over and over: "ALL elections must be with paper ballots and MUST be audited" JoeOtterbein Jul 2017 #4

all counted by hand, the first time, IMO. most audits could be defeated. nt TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #10

This +1000. Plus, the handcounted paper ballot method has a built in "audit" - diva77 Jul 2017 #24

The Vegas gaming machines go through benld74 Jul 2017 #5

I would love to hack me some slot machines dembotoz Jul 2017 #30

Absolutely True Leith Jul 2017 #49

anyone who can follow detailed instructions bora13 Jul 2017 #6

And certainly no repub SOS such as Kris Kobach would stoop so low. Amaryllis Jul 2017 #14

would somebody show this to Congress? RussBLib Jul 2017 #7

I've wondered for years why Dem leadership has never taken this seriously. They can't all be Amaryllis Jul 2017 #16

me too. makes one go "hmmm...." nt tomp Jul 2017 #42

nooo... i'm shocked... NOT. throw in russian resources and POTUS at stake, and it's guaranteed. nt TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #9

Again it's time to call my Sec. Of State Elections and ask what are they going to do about this turbinetree Jul 2017 #11

Yep. Last election was hacked. broadcaster90210 Jul 2017 #13

Yep, I truly believe this LittleGirl Jul 2017 #15

Does America value democracy? SHRED Jul 2017 #17

We ignored it in 2000 when Clint Curtis admitted to altering software so the GOP would win in Ohio judesedit Jul 2017 #20

sadly, if nothing was done after 2000, nothing will probably be done now. nt TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #37

K & R BadgerMom Jul 2017 #21

I'm sorry, but 'cracking a machine' is meaningless. yallerdawg Jul 2017 #22

if you voted on a paper ballot, most likely the tabulation was done with optical scanners which diva77 Jul 2017 #23

Of course! It's the "optical scanners" now! yallerdawg Jul 2017 #26

sorry yallerdawg - am not understanding where you stand diva77 Jul 2017 #27

If the goal of the Russians is to discredit American elections... yallerdawg Jul 2017 #29

Regardless of what the Russians' goal was, why should we risk it? We know how to avoid this. Squinch Jul 2017 #32

You don't seem to understand that optically scanned ballots can be audited and verified. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #43

If you're going to doubt optical scanners... politicat Jul 2017 #36

wow, that's very trusting of you, but not very informed on this subject, IMO. nt TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #38

Check out computer expert J. Alex Halderman's testimony in this clip diva77 Jul 2017 #41

the goal is not to discredit our elections; it is to secure them and make them verifiable. who would TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #39

Here's how to frame the public "debate" - diva77 Jul 2017 #25

The 2016 election cannot be shown to have been accurately tallied. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #34

I like your version too. Now we need to put heat on Secretaries of State to respond to the DefCon diva77 Jul 2017 #35

that's why i call it "faith-based voting." needless to say, i'm an atheist, and i need to see proof. TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #40

DING! DING! DING! Exactly right, Coyote!! ElementaryPenguin Jul 2017 #52

Paper Ballots... Blue Idaho Jul 2017 #28

K & R. 40,000 switched votes flipped the Electoral College. L. Coyote Jul 2017 #33

It blows my mind that those things are actually resold on the open market and not destroyed. TheBlackAdder Jul 2017 #44

This thread is full of people smugly telling us that hacking is unlikely. Right after an election Squinch Jul 2017 #45

i ask myself the same thing; why would anyone be opposed to a paper-based system? nt TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #55

there are problems with all-mail voting, sorry to say diva77 Jul 2017 #60

As they have every year for the past umpteen years. Hugin Jul 2017 #46

I know we are not suppose to question the vote jimlup Jul 2017 #47

don't know about this election, but extensive statistical analysis of 2000 election TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #56

I've been looking for a reference jimlup Jul 2017 #57

you could check the DU archives for poster named Truth-is-all, or something similar (TIA)?; TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #58

here are a couple of links to articles with data diva77 Jul 2017 #59

Republicans Have Been Stealing Elections for Quite Some Time & The Watchdogs Have Been Put to Sleep dlk Jul 2017 #48

No big surprise. 2006 Documentary, Hacking Democracy should have Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2017 #50

Yes these issues have been known for at least 10 years FakeNoose Jul 2017 #53

"The GOP can't win unless they cheat." I just said those exact words to my mom this morning! Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2017 #54

Wake up, Federal and State voting authorities! You are placing our democracy into clear Nitram Jul 2017 #51