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csziggy

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6. Putin's useful idiot has outlived his usefulness but the Russian goal has been achieved
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 01:24 PM
Jun 2017

If Putin's plan was to disrupt the American political system, weaken American power across the world, and foster distrust of our elections, nothing more needs to be done. The Russians have achieved all of that and more.

Even if hard evidence is found that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians and there is enough evidence to implicate Trump in that collusion - or even if Trump had no knowledge but there is evidence that he obstructed justice by firing Comey to derail the Russian investigation (as provided by his own tweets and by his interview with Lester Holt) - the chaos that will happen during debates about whether to impeach Trump will continue to disrupt our political system.

If we could remove Trump today without impeachment, the damage he and his cohorts have done will take years to repair. Unless the entire GOP is brought down with Trump we may not be able to fix it.

Basically, we're fucked for the immediate future. I'm sixty five and hope I live long enough to see the US on a better course.

The rotten egg smell around Sessions gets thicker. shraby Jun 2017 #1
So are the Russians planning to dump Trump? greymattermom Jun 2017 #2
I think Putin just wants to knock the U.S. down a few notches. To have Trump & Republicans LiberalArkie Jun 2017 #4
That may be a collateral benefit, but Putin is threatening Alice11111 Jun 2017 #31
He would be wise to cut him loose. BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M Jun 2017 #26
Putin's useful idiot has outlived his usefulness but the Russian goal has been achieved csziggy Jun 2017 #6
The Repubs will never allow open debates on impeacment Alice11111 Jun 2017 #32
"apparently contradicting the attorney generals sworn testimony" BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #3
For the SECOND time! csziggy Jun 2017 #7
he doesn't recall, don't make him nervous Motley13 Jun 2017 #24
He makes me sick.I filed a Disciplinary Complaint against him. Alice11111 Jun 2017 #33
How do you file a Disciplinary Complaint? Motley13 Jun 2017 #35
Wow thanks. Get the State Bar of Alabama on the web. Alice11111 Jun 2017 #38
He's a Republican. SergeStorms Jun 2017 #30
Nope, no confusion, just out and out total lying and perjury. lark Jun 2017 #8
Even further neohippie Jun 2017 #9
Thank you Alice11111 Jun 2017 #34
Just found this story neohippie Jun 2017 #42
Kushner was also involved neohippie Jun 2017 #10
He's a little perjury elf HAB911 Jun 2017 #11
He forgot! rusty fender Jun 2017 #12
Hey, Jeffie Beau III. He's a third generation, upper class bigot. Alice11111 Jun 2017 #39
I do believe lying to Congress under oath is a crime sinkingfeeling Jun 2017 #13
A friend of mine, who is much better at this, commented Enoki33 Jun 2017 #14
Interesting to hear. Thanks! n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2017 #16
"Oh, those dinners? Why, I plumb forgot about them!" tanyev Jun 2017 #15
Too many vodka toasts? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2017 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M Jun 2017 #25
Kurt Eichenwald‏Verified account @kurteichenwald "Meeting w/ Russian lobbyist" story bout Richard riversedge Jun 2017 #17
Eichenwald is wrong. torius Jun 2017 #28
Putin has built a winniing position on the checkboard. FigTree Jun 2017 #19
I think Sessions still zentrum Jun 2017 #20
That headline made me snort so hard, I spat my food out! BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2017 #21
Since Sessions is such a huge fan of harsh prison sentences for nonviolent crimes Snake Plissken Jun 2017 #22
Yeah, use his own quotes against him. Alice11111 Jun 2017 #36
republican liars are pissing on America & American democracy Achilleaze Jun 2017 #23
After watching Watergate last night...... dawnie51 Jun 2017 #27
Has Sessions lawyered up yet? burrowowl Jun 2017 #29
yes Skittles Jun 2017 #37
The Russian lobbyist wrote Trump's foreign policy speech? Did we know this? Chemisse Jun 2017 #40
I just want to see that slimy little MF grinning elf in stripes Alice11111 Jun 2017 #41
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