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DonViejo

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Mon May 15, 2017, 05:06 PM May 2017

Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador [View all]

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Source: The Washington Post

Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador


By Greg Miller and Greg Jaffe May 15 at 5:01 PM

President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said that Trumps disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

The information Trump relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said that Trumps decision to do so risks cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trumps meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and National Security Agency.

This is code-word information, said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html



UPDATE:


Trump Revealed Highly Classified Intelligence to Russia, in Break With Ally, Officials Say


WASHINGTON — President Trump boasted about highly classified intelligence in a meeting with the Russian foreign minister and ambassador last week, providing details that could expose the source of the information and the manner in which it was collected, a current and a former American government official said Monday.

The intelligence disclosed by Mr. Trump in a meeting with Sergey V. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, and Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States, was about an Islamic State plot, according to the officials. A foreign ally that closely guards its own secrets provided the information, which was considered so sensitive that American officials did not share it widely within the United States government or pass it on to other allies.

Mr. Trump’s disclosure does not appear to have been illegal — the president has the power to declassify almost anything. But sharing the information without the express permission of the ally who provided it represented a major breach of espionage etiquette, and could jeopardize a crucial intelligence-sharing relationship.

“The White House has got to do something soon to bring itself under control and in order,” Senator Bob Corker, Republican of Tennessee and the chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, told reporters, adding, “It’s got to happen.”

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Asked about the larger effect of the disclosure, Mr. Corker said, “To compromise a source is something that you just don’t do, and that’s why we keep the information that we get from intelligence sources so close as to prevent that from happening.”

Senator Mark Warner, Democrat of Virginia and the vice chairman of the Intelligence Committee, said on Twitter, “If true, this is a slap in the face to the intel community. Risking sources & methods is inexcusable, particularly with the Russians.”

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/trump-russia-classified-information-isis.html


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Trump Revealed Highly Classified Information To Russians During White House Visit

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Two US officials who were briefed on Trumps disclosures last week confirmed to BuzzFeed News the veracity of the Post report, with one official noting that its far worse than what has already been reported.

The Senate Intelligence Committee was also briefed on Trumps disclosures, one of the officials said.

A CIA spokesman declined to comment on the record when reached by BuzzFeed News. The official referred requests for comment to the National Security Council. The National Security Council did not immediately respond to BuzzFeed News' request for a comment.

The classified information Trump shared included intelligence on ISIS that had been passed to the US by a partner, which was not identified. But Trump's disclosure was considered a potential blow to the intelligence-sharing arrangement, and White House officials reportedly moved quickly to contain the fallout.

After news of Trump's revelations broke Monday, Sen. Bob Corker a Tennessee Republican and chairman of the Foreign Relations committee said "obviously they're in a downward spiral right now and they've got to figure out a way to come to grips with all that's happening."

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Legally though I am not sure if anything can be done because doesnt the President have the legal cstanleytech May 2017 #1
The legality isn't the problem. It's the political side, like impeachment. Blue_Adept May 2017 #6
At least the White House found a way to move off the Comey story L. Coyote May 2017 #152
Yes, but.... DonViejo May 2017 #7
Is this treason? I ask because I don't know uppityperson May 2017 #35
I don't believe it would be. herding cats May 2017 #62
The WaPo article said unlikely he broke the law: Amaryllis May 2017 #51
The M$M keeps defending him. dawn frenzy adams May 2017 #97
I think, like with Comey, it's all about context. forgotmylogin May 2017 #154
I keep waiting... cisco man May 2017 #192
aiding and abetting bora13 May 2017 #101
If we were at war with Russia you would have a point. Voltaire2 May 2017 #113
It is particularly noteworthy that it is Russia involved. Enoki33 May 2017 #139
We imprisoned and even executed spies that sold or gave secrets to the USSR ThoughtCriminal May 2017 #148
Yes we did. But not for treason. Voltaire2 May 2017 #163
you're missing something here.... lastlib May 2017 #169
That law assumes it would not be done treestar May 2017 #180
This is why electing him, which we didnt, is not an option, because YES Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #57
No Sophiegirl May 2017 #10
Question is will the Repugnants take any action either to punish him (which I doubt they will do) or cstanleytech May 2017 #20
So much for having allies. The ally is going to be very unhappy, I imagine. Nt lostnfound May 2017 #36
Our allies might back off from working with the US avebury May 2017 #87
Unhappy or maybe dead central scrutinizer May 2017 #111
I would love it if you are right, but I think as prez he can decslassify info simply Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #63
We went thru this last time he did something similar. dixiegrrrrl May 2017 #41
Glad you pointed that out. LiberalFighter May 2017 #58
I hope so, I am making my comments based on an assumption that he can Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #67
Yes he can.. riversedge May 2017 #88
" authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law. dixiegrrrrl May 2017 #150
Per the article -yes.... riversedge May 2017 #84
Words fail me irisblue May 2017 #2
I think I've said that ten times this week CanonRay May 2017 #31
It's shocking but not surprising, if that makes an sense. (eom) StevieM May 2017 #119
Too bad they don't fail Cheato. nt tblue37 May 2017 #160
I suppose I don't need to say this... Sophiegirl May 2017 #3
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Senate Democrats alone will not be able "to step up & end this nightmare" red dog 1 May 2017 #22
Such a small number... Bradical79 May 2017 #39
This issue could turn out to be significant enough that some republicans will cross. lostnfound May 2017 #42
I agree, McCain & Graham do seem to care about national security issues red dog 1 May 2017 #48
They say they do.... LisaM May 2017 #50
Perhaps they will act on it now? red dog 1 May 2017 #56
McCain, Graham , Collins, Rubio. NewRedDawn May 2017 #122
Flake and Sasse also talk a good game but never refuse to toe the party line. nt tblue37 May 2017 #161
Rubio is a coward. Sophiegirl May 2017 #172
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And you can count on Manchin - so at least 4 repubs. n/t woodsprite May 2017 #66
Impeachment needs a two thirds majority in the Senate muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #76
You need 67 Senators to throw out the President, after half plus 1 in the House vote to impeach NT karynnj May 2017 #121
Thanks, Sophiegirl. elleng May 2017 #37
Too bad trump isnt a democrat, McCain would go apeshit all over him and impeach him in 5 Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #69
Trump needs to be impeached or removed from office by means of the 25th Amendment. madaboutharry May 2017 #4
Without bi-partisan support for impeachment in the House, and conviction in the Senate, red dog 1 May 2017 #43
Without patriots in the GOP, you mean Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #70
maybe....maybe not cisco man May 2017 #166
It's not a leak, it's a waterfall. wildeyed May 2017 #5
He is and has been since about 10 years ago when they bought him with their loans. Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #71
But. Her. Emails. nt geek tragedy May 2017 #8
Just as long as he didn't email it to an unclassified server! JaneQPublic May 2017 #9
LOL yeah, but he and Hillary are the same I was told. Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #72
Same with Gore and Shrub. That turned out well, too JaneQPublic May 2017 #94
He needs to be arrested for espionage for foreign gov't. Sculpin Beauregard May 2017 #11
Of COURSE he did... n/t TygrBright May 2017 #12
Who'da thunk it? WheelWalker May 2017 #13
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OMG. I wonder how they know he revealed that? nt Honeycombe8 May 2017 #16
That is a very interesting question, actually. RT? Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #75
chatter, i bet obamanut2012 May 2017 #124
Yup and I bet revealing it was a fuck you for firing Comey. Egnever May 2017 #153
I agree obamanut2012 May 2017 #182
Exactky what i was wondering; especially the "former" people. nt 7962 May 2017 #128
There were staffers in the meeting when Trump blabbed everything FakeNoose May 2017 #168
But, her emails... Shell_Seas May 2017 #18
Holy fuck. Eom uppityperson May 2017 #19
No shit. Eom William Seger May 2017 #47
Trump is one of the biggest national security threat we face these days. Arkansas Granny May 2017 #21
yup onetexan May 2017 #54
How CON-servative of him Freethinker65 May 2017 #23
Here is the problem: Amaryllis May 2017 #24
This is HUGE. Make no MISTAKE. Justice May 2017 #25
I bet our partner will not share any more top secret information for a while. what a mess! riversedge May 2017 #82
On top of that he may have compromised the source Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2017 #149
If there are no patriotic Rethugs willing to OldHippieChick May 2017 #26
+ 1 red dog 1 May 2017 #136
Message deleted by DU the Administrators Tactical Peek May 2017 #27
IOKIYAR - It's OK If You're A Republican. procon May 2017 #28
How fucking dumb is this asshole? Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #29
Is that a rhetorical question? Shell_Seas May 2017 #32
When he is ousted from office C Moon May 2017 #30
The man is a complete incompetent, ignorant, bumbling fool. Vinca May 2017 #33
Doesn't Count-Not Hillary Stallion May 2017 #34
More treason. I wonder if Russia leaked this to humiliate him? bettyellen May 2017 #38
Keep calling your Senators and Representatives. VigilantG May 2017 #40
Got to start paying up for the help with the election sometime.... Thomas Hurt May 2017 #44
Fucking traitorous asshole republicans will let this go too. What in the complete fucking hell. onecaliberal May 2017 #45
That is exactly what is going to happen. n/t gldstwmn May 2017 #167
Message deleted by DU the Administrators More_Cowbell May 2017 #46
Can't wait to see FOX News' take on this Mr. Ected May 2017 #49
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Kick for exposure! red dog 1 May 2017 #53
Outrageous. MBS May 2017 #59
k and r...for exposure...nt Stuart G May 2017 #60
republican Comrade Casino* against the United States of America Achilleaze May 2017 #61
Dipshit was showing off, of course BeyondGeography May 2017 #64
Mr. pig put his life on the line for his country. spiderpig May 2017 #77
Except when he is telling the American people he knows more than the Intell Com & doesn't need brief Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #80
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Glaringly obvious. lark May 2017 #68
They had to tell the NSA and CIA. Trump told the Russian the city where the info had been gathered.. Princess Turandot May 2017 #137
Crystal clear and present danger. BumRushDaShow May 2017 #73
This story is still being verified..Not at NYT or CNN yet (5:50pm ET)...see additional note please. Stuart G May 2017 #74
Washington Post is pretty high up there. underpants May 2017 #90
As of 6:13 Eastern Time it is not at the CNN website....I just went there.. Stuart G May 2017 #95
Here: janx May 2017 #103
Yes, I was wrong.,you are correct.....I went there a minute ago, and it is up there now... Stuart G May 2017 #105
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It is now at the New York Times...on front page..well......??? Stuart G May 2017 #112
NYT notification popped up on my iPad about 20 mins ago... Pachamama May 2017 #116
Yes, you are correct., I was wrong, you are right "He is a danger to the safety of America" Stuart G May 2017 #118
He was trying to impress his boss's people underpants May 2017 #78
Did Trump blab this in front of the RUSSIAN MEDIA? mackdaddy May 2017 #79
Why YES he did. Link to post mackdaddy May 2017 #184
Greta just called this a bombshell. displacedtexan May 2017 #81
It also potentially spread it wider than to the Russians muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #83
One Thing That Struck Me About the WashPost Article DDySiegs May 2017 #85
he was BRAGGING! that's why he talked orleans May 2017 #130
This is Executive Order 12356, which covers classification and declassification jmowreader May 2017 #86
WEll benld74 May 2017 #89
Trump seems to be very reckless and doesnt grasp the gravity of the things hes dealing with, .. riversedge May 2017 #91
How can one man dig himself in a hole so deep? askyagerz May 2017 #92
I had my doubts previously, but this really seals it for me. Goodheart May 2017 #93
Putin probably showed Cheeto a copy on his own phone tenorly May 2017 #99
Why are you calling J. Edgar Hoover "Mary"? obamanut2012 May 2017 #125
Because... tenorly May 2017 #127
Not being transphobic isn't being "PC" obamanut2012 May 2017 #135
Done. tenorly May 2017 #157
WE. CANNOT. GO. ON. LIKE. THIS. Mme. Defarge May 2017 #96
NOT. FOR. ANOTHER. FUCKING. SECOND. Leghorn21 May 2017 #115
Congress has not gotten that message--a few Repugs have meekly spoke out but riversedge May 2017 #181
Call for the tapes! nolabear May 2017 #98
Message deleted by DU the Administrators rdking647 May 2017 #100
A military coup (as "the military should" implies) would be the end of this country... Hekate May 2017 #188
This man is not very bright UltravioletDingo May 2017 #102
Don't pack your bags just yet, Melania. lanlady May 2017 #114
How do they know he leaked sensitive info? Thekaspervote May 2017 #104
Red Don isn't stupid, but he does have a personality disorder that requires constant boasting... Hekate May 2017 #190
He's going to get our people killed. ffr May 2017 #106
I'll bet, but you'd have to check with DT, being president is harder than being a TV actor Dorn May 2017 #107
This is it, folks Dopers_Greed May 2017 #108
It was a mistake, this is just Trump being Trump... .99center May 2017 #110
This could get suspected Israeli spies within ISIS killed. Marcuse May 2017 #117
Shouldn't we all be floored right now? And yet how many of us are not that surprised? (eom) StevieM May 2017 #120
Was this leaked? How did it get out that he did this? Amaryllis May 2017 #123
He must owe Uncle Putin a lot of money. Demtexan May 2017 #126
**LOCK HIM UP** Martin Eden May 2017 #129
That man has a twisted ego and a big mouth. That he blabs about things he shouldn't is Solly Mack May 2017 #131
TRUMP STUPID F'ING A-HOLE TRAITOR !!! vkkv May 2017 #132
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Worse than Inspector Clouseau bucolic_frolic May 2017 #133
Now we know why he didn't allow American media in the room. alfredo May 2017 #134
They just trotted out McMaster to deny something the story did not say. SunSeeker May 2017 #138
Trump Twitter Deja WooWoo that isn't aging well today. L. Coyote May 2017 #140
IF this was Hillary bluestarone May 2017 #142
"Can we have a crisis-free day? That's all I'm asking." mtngirl47 May 2017 #143
Sure, Susie-Q. Just get your R colleagues in the House & Senate together and impeach him. nt tblue37 May 2017 #165
Congress, open up hearing into the illegal use of classified info. Lock him up. iluvtennis May 2017 #144
Trump intentionally gave classified information to a Russian spy handler .99center May 2017 #145
+1 dalton99a May 2017 #156
My question exactly! jazzcat23 May 2017 #171
Will we get an independent prosecutor yet? DK504 May 2017 #146
Interesting choice of words from NYTimes--" Trump boasted about highly classified intelligence..".. riversedge May 2017 #147
Breitbarf has their own reality to prop up: L. Coyote May 2017 #151
People have been executed and imprisoned for giving America's secrets to Russia dalton99a May 2017 #155
Next thing you know, he'll be outing undercover CIA operatives! Oh, wait-- tblue37 May 2017 #158
Attention Anyone Complaining About Mrs. Clinton's Emails. 47of74 May 2017 #159
But ... Benghazi? Kablooie May 2017 #176
Wow. This is too much to digest. AgadorSparticus May 2017 #162
Alzheimer's. truthisfreedom May 2017 #170
Yeah, the filters are off his already-existing personality disorders. nt Hekate May 2017 #191
I can't believe the NY Times would write this: Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2017 #173
But, Dark n Stormy Knight May 2017 #174
I say it's about time we start sharing with Russia. Kablooie May 2017 #175
Update from BBC nitpicker May 2017 #177
More from The Guardian nitpicker May 2017 #178
well here are the requisite after-the-fact defensive tweets onetexan May 2017 #179
"who cares? It's not like I know anything about loyalty--not MY intelligence, so..." librechik May 2017 #185
AND YET, NOTHING will happen to him yuiyoshida May 2017 #189
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