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Fri Apr 21, 2017, 09:37 AM

29. Some nits to pick:

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Oral Roberts and MIT are private. So I've heard, not having attended either. MIT is certainly the recipient of Federal funding. I don't know about Oral Roberts.

The elected officials of the senior class usually choose the commencement speaker, I think, or it's put to a vote of the senior class. Again, I'm not sure. I don't think anyone can demand to give the commencement speech.*

AFAIK, Ann Coulter was invited by a recognized student group to give a speech on Berkeley grounds. She accepted. If other student groups have had their invited speakers give speeches, then Berkeley has to treat this student group the same way the other groups were treated.

The only wrinkle to this instance is one that I was not at first aware of.

I gather the invitation was made on short notice, giving Berkeley little, possibly insufficient, time to arrange security. If a requirement were made of all groups that they make known to Berkeley whom they had invited, giving the administration time to prepare for any reaction, I do not see how that would represent an infringement of First Amendment rights.

If there were an actual security concern and not just a "wink-wink-nudge-nudge" security concern, you'd be safe on Constitutional grounds.

Again, all groups would have to be treated the same. The Knitting Club and the Windsurfing Club would also have to let the Berkeley administration know whom they had invited, two weeks ahead of schedule, say. There could be some radical knitting factions out there; you never can tell.

I do not favor the heckler's veto, especially when it is wielded by thugs who show up in hoodies and masks. I don't have any love for that crowd, and I'm not going to give in to them.

* Well, he can demand, but no one will pay him any attention.

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