Clinton said some positive things as late as 2013 (Reply #52)

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karynnj (54,942 posts)

52. Clinton said some positive things as late as 2013

Then in 2015 or 2016 said she was against it.

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Sanders stumps for Mello in Omaha, stirs national debate about definition of a progressive [View all]	Omaha Steve	Apr 20	OP
I'm sick of this shit. Now we're supposed to back pro-lifers. Some progressive you got there, Bernie	brush	Apr 20	#1
Ossoff only needed 3600 more votes, that's how close it was. It's not only that...	George II	Apr 20	#2
So somehow Ossoff is not about taking back this country?	Demsrule86	Apr 21	#72
But if you accept some real harsh realities about who some of these people really	Eliot Rosewater	Apr 21	#101
I kind of get what you mean by harsh realities.	brush	Apr 22	#113
We have no D from NE in Congress Heath winning mayor puts Omaha back in play (long game)	Omaha Steve	Apr 20	#3
Your whole post never mentioned Sanders	brush	Apr 20	#4
Thanks for writing off NE where Obama got an EC vote in 08	Omaha Steve	Apr 20	#5
Are you serious? There was an opportunity to gain an IMMEDIATE seat in Congress in Georgia	brush	Apr 21	#6
Are you serious???	Omaha Steve	Apr 21	#8
Sorry you don't get it. An IMMEDIATE SEAT IN CONGRESS WAS AT STAKE...	brush	Apr 21	#9
You didn't answer the question	Omaha Steve	Apr 21	#22
It's not a zero-sum game.	onenote	Apr 21	#24
He may have been told stay away	Omaha Steve	Apr 21	#25
I think Omaha Steve is right: he was probably asked not to campaign in Georgia.	femmedem	Apr 21	#31
excuses, and lame ones at that	onenote	Apr 21	#43
I'm just throwing this out there....	all american girl	Apr 21	#36
This message was self-deleted by its author	Omaha Steve	Apr 21	#38
Please, please, please stop blaming Hillary. This is Bernies job, not her's	all american girl	Apr 21	#40
Should Sanders not have endorsed Clinton in the general	onenote	Apr 21	#45
You know how this works.	lapucelle	Apr 21	#35
Was he told by the candidates campaign to stay out?	Omaha Steve	Apr 21	#37
It's almost ridiculous at this point.	lapucelle	Apr 21	#44
I agree with this.	Demit	Apr 21	#49
The Democratic party did not create an Outreach chair, the Senate did	karynnj	Apr 21	#51
I believe that's called splitting hairs.	Demit	Apr 21	#55
True, but my point is that it may be issues, more than elections - as he did on healthcare	karynnj	Apr 21	#64
So far it is only speculation that Ossoff didn't request Sanders' help.	Demit	Apr 21	#69
Or, he was asked a question for which everything depends on what your definition of "progressive is"	karynnj	Apr 21	#73
No, the only definition of progressive that's relevant in this situation is Sanders', not mine	Demit	Apr 21	#83
OK, Sanders' definition is very likely based on his economic vision	karynnj	Apr 21	#84
It's a party leadership post.	lapucelle	Apr 21	#62
It is a SENATE leadership position, Schumer broke the position Senator Klobuchar had in half	karynnj	Apr 21	#68
It is a Senate Democratic Caucus/Conference Committee	lapucelle	Apr 21	#89
the role is as part of the Senate Democratic leadership	karynnj	Apr 21	#91
It's not word salad.	lapucelle	Apr 21	#95
Word salad with government links	karynnj	Apr 21	#96
So the Outreach position is not limited to the Senate.	lapucelle	Apr 21	#100
Chuck Schumer, in his role	lapucelle	Apr 21	#105
Jane Kleeb was very outspoken last year against our Presidential candidate even AFTER...	George II	Apr 21	#79
This message was self-deleted by its author	susanna	Apr 22	#114
Puhlease! Bernie has done more to help the Democratic Party than any other leader in recent memory.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Apr 21	#80
The problem is, Sanders giveth and taketh away.	brush	Apr 21	#86
This guy doesn't sound like a "pro-lifer"	democrattotheend	Apr 26	#115
Ultrasound	brush	Apr 26	#116
Funny how those who often speak out against so-called "purity tests" whenever any sort of objection	WIProgressive88	Apr 21	#7
Can't believe I just read this here.	GulfCoast66	Apr 21	#10
"Purity tests for thee,	lapucelle	Apr 21	#46
I feel the same way. I am pro-choice but there are	AJT	Apr 21	#11
People who violated women's civil rights are not 'good' Would you call people who	Demsrule86	Apr 21	#75
"there are people who truly look at abortion as murder"	musette_sf	Apr 21	#85
If someone feels abortion is murder then they shouldn't have one. Problem solved. n/t	tammywammy	Apr 21	#108
That's nice, but no one who is anti-choice is progressive. Period. nt	geek tragedy	Apr 21	#112
The problem isn't support for Mello over the republican, in spite of his anti-choice positions,	still_one	Apr 21	#15
100% this	obamanut2012	Apr 21	#30
+1	Blue_Tires	Apr 21	#47
This!	mcar	Apr 21	#56
Precisely, still_one.. and thank you so much	Cha	Apr 21	#65
Women health rights are not a purity test, the are human rights. What is so hard to understand about	all american girl	Apr 21	#16
It's also funny that people conflate a platform with purity tests when convenient to their own bias.	LanternWaste	Apr 21	#61
Abortion access is a civil rights issue...	Demsrule86	Apr 21	#74
Good point.	JudyM	Apr 21	#90
Our Choice Our Rights Our Bodies Our Voice	sheshe2	Apr 21	#103
U mad bro?	geek tragedy	Apr 21	#111
This shows that Sanders is not demanding purity or even progressives since Mello is not progressive	JI7	Apr 21	#12
Ya Nailed it JI7.	still_one	Apr 21	#14
Yet BS calls Mello a "progressive"..	Cha	Apr 21	#17
he shouldn't refer to him as a progressive	JI7	Apr 21	#20
I know.. it's ridiculous	Cha	Apr 21	#21
Is Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) a progressive???	Omaha Steve	Apr 21	#26
Heath Mello is "Aggressively Anti-choice" Dkos pulled their endorsement..	Cha	Apr 21	#28
Hillary was OK with Kaine and his anti-abortion past	Omaha Steve	Apr 21	#34
Oh please! Stop it! There's no "double standard" at all.	NurseJackie	Apr 21	#53
Did Kaine want to OUTLAW abortion? (Yes or no.)	NurseJackie	Apr 21	#54
Smears aside, Kaine has a 100% LIFETIME rating from NARAL & Planned Parenthood. n/t	FSogol	Apr 21	#57
Perfect from 2013-2017 NOT in 2005 etc	Omaha Steve	Apr 21	#106
There is a huge difference to not agree with abortions...	sheshe2	Apr 21	#104
Mello voted for and the less restrictive amendment passed	Omaha Steve	Apr 21	#107
You're correct, Cha ...	NurseJackie	Apr 21	#58
There is no wisdom involved.. it seems to be some kind of	Cha	Apr 21	#63
so the definition of a progressive is flexible, and includes anti-abortion candidates	Fast Walker 52	Apr 21	#27
"Aggressively Anti-Choice candidate"..	Cha	Apr 21	#67
he sounds bad, but I am a fairly big tent Democrat and am ok with different types of Dems	Fast Walker 52	Apr 21	#82
which makes me wonder what doe Sen. Sanders want?	Demsrule86	Apr 21	#76
I can understand support for Mello over the republican, in spite of his anti-choice positions,	still_one	Apr 21	#13
Then why not endorse Ossoff?	lapucelle	Apr 21	#42
Exactly	still_one	Apr 21	#60
Uh...	tmr	Apr 21	#18
Clinton said some positive things as late as 2013	karynnj	Apr 21	#52
Yup, following Bernie's lead... again!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Apr 21	#81
Mello's vote to "compromise" a woman's right	lexington filly	Apr 21	#19
I'm getting everything second-hand. Mello's record, according to another article, doesn't sound good	JCanete	Apr 21	#23
To hell with this -- Ossoff "may not be progressive"?	obamanut2012	Apr 21	#29
Why is Planned Parenthood backing this candidate if...	WePurrsevere	Apr 21	#32
Possibly because he has vowed to support "reproductive healthcare"	Demit	Apr 21	#50
Thank you. If he does as he says, I'm fine with that.	WePurrsevere	Apr 21	#59
The point for me is why waste time and money with a mayoral candidate when	Demsrule86	Apr 21	#78
Hopefully time and money will be invested in Georgia 6 too.	WePurrsevere	Apr 21	#87
We have limited resources...a race like the mayor race when we need all hands on deck	Demsrule86	Apr 21	#92
I wish I understood why they do what they do...	WePurrsevere	Apr 21	#94
I don't see how this is part of the plan...unless the plan is to piss off women	Demsrule86	Apr 21	#98
Howard Dean definitely knew how to win...	WePurrsevere	Apr 21	#99
I didn't know Bernie was a Democrat	maxrandb	Apr 21	#33
Sanders in Boston Adopts Right Wing Talking Points on Liberal Elites	delisen	Apr 21	#39
How many of yall read the article - tired of this either-or bs. One can have personal beliefs that	Kashkakat v.2.0	Apr 21	#41
My part of the conversation: believe what you want but don't force your beliefs on others.	Demit	Apr 21	#66
That would depend if you plan to force your views on women.	Demsrule86	Apr 21	#77
Campaigning for an anti-choice Dem while ignoring the most progressive candidate seen in years	Foamfollower	Apr 21	#48
For me it comes down to this	bekkilyn	Apr 21	#70
He was endorsed in 2010 by anti-choice group Nebraska Right to Life.	NurseJackie	Apr 21	#71
Sanders and the DNC are supporting a democrat	killbotfactory	Apr 21	#88
Sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't.	NurseJackie	Apr 21	#97
NARAL supported Tom Kaine	Sienna86	Apr 21	#93
Guess Bernie does not qualify as a progressive with his views and	Thinkingabout	Apr 21	#102
Ossoff is a progressive? Maybe so. So what?	mikehiggins	Apr 21	#109
About that mayor's race	Omaha Steve	Apr 21	#110

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