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86. This is "Democratic Underground" and I am a Democrat and so is Tulsi.

Sun Apr 9, 2017, 08:36 PM

Apr 2017

Yet, she is being called "No different than Trump" for merely questioning the assumption that Assad did this, when Syrian rebels have used Sarin in the past.

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'No different than Trump with Putin': Howard Dean says Tulsi Gabbard should resign for defending... [View all] DonViejo Apr 2017 OP

I was watching that live, my jawed dropped when he said that. She's been very outspoken... George II Apr 2017 #1

she has never defended Assad - Democrats lose credibility when they say things like that virtualobserver Apr 2017 #3

Credibility with who? The Alt-Right? Chevy Apr 2017 #4

so you agree with this policy of the US bombing both sides of the Syrian conflict? virtualobserver Apr 2017 #6

I agree that Gabbard has her own agenda Chevy Apr 2017 #7

She was personally involved in our previous stupid war.....she saw people die. virtualobserver Apr 2017 #11

On the other hand we are all part of this world arent we? So if we have the ability to help cstanleytech Apr 2017 #16

What Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya have proven is that intervening and causing regime change.... virtualobserver Apr 2017 #22

There is intervening and then there is stupidity the problem is being careful about cstanleytech Apr 2017 #30

I agree, but in the current situation..... virtualobserver Apr 2017 #32

You wrote this post that I'm replying to ... Tortmaster Apr 2017 #122

let me break it down for you virtualobserver Apr 2017 #127

The people "personally involved" in treating those people she insists were not synergie Apr 2017 #81

From 2013: UN's Del Ponte says evidence Syria rebels 'used sarin' virtualobserver Apr 2017 #85

See my #92 below stevenleser Apr 2017 #93

My link is about 2017, where evidence shows that despite the chemical weapons synergie Apr 2017 #117

if rebels had Sarin in 2013, they could have it in 2017 virtualobserver Apr 2017 #120

The problem you have is that the evidence is in and it doesn't support your claims. synergie Apr 2017 #121

No, she is a pro-Trump & Putin, anti Obama Islamophobe-homophobe Trojan horse obamanut2012 Apr 2017 #106

Why not bomb boths sides? That's the only sure way to kill all them Mohammedans progree Apr 2017 #8

So you are claiming that Assad does not use chemical bombs on his own people? synergie Apr 2017 #80

I'm not claiming anything. I'm just agreeing with Tulsi that this should be thoroughly investigated virtualobserver Apr 2017 #83

How Tulsi Gabbard became Assads mouthpiece in Washington Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #5

the "moderate rebels" are fighting on the same side as ISIS and Al Qaeda virtualobserver Apr 2017 #9

Doesn't explain why she secretly Chevy Apr 2017 #14

The group is not anti-Semite & members of that group marched against Trump during the women's march virtualobserver Apr 2017 #19

Linda Sarsour is the national advocacy director lapucelle Apr 2017 #34

Gabbard is no dissembler virtualobserver Apr 2017 #43

Yes she served does not mean she Chevy Apr 2017 #78

It's exactly what she does. lapucelle Apr 2017 #123

Syrian Kurds are the only ones we can count on.. paleotn Apr 2017 #62

Gabbard/Assad/Russian talking points. sharedvalues Apr 2017 #73

Tulsi is wrong, and egregiously so. Howard Dean is right to call her out. smdh Hekate Apr 2017 #13

she is wrong to ask for an investigation of the site? virtualobserver Apr 2017 #44

Assad has been at this for years. Syrians are willing to drown in the Mediterranean rather than stay Hekate Apr 2017 #45

Where have you been? virtualobserver Apr 2017 #46

United Nations? Independent reports? Other research? Hekate Apr 2017 #70

UN's Del Ponte says evidence Syria rebels 'used sarin' virtualobserver Apr 2017 #76

You conveniently keep leaving out the fact that no one else in the commission stevenleser Apr 2017 #92

Thanks Steve riversedge Apr 2017 #105

I didn't conveniently do anything virtualobserver Apr 2017 #115

Good job having your talking points down... snooper2 Apr 2017 #126

it is called common sense virtualobserver Apr 2017 #128

Tulsi should just give up the show and admit she is a Libertarian snooper2 Apr 2017 #130

Agree. It is such a mess with the alignments in Syria Alice11111 Apr 2017 #71

I thought that Gabbard was speaking within a narrower context. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2017 #56

Actually she did. She said she did not believe that Assad was behind the gas attack. still_one Apr 2017 #57

she isn't defending him. she said that she was skeptical virtualobserver Apr 2017 #63

Skeptical means you DOUBT someone did something. SHE DOESN'T KNOW. As far as her being a veteran still_one Apr 2017 #69

you said that she was "serving as a liaison between Trump and Assad" virtualobserver Apr 2017 #72

Oh FFS, if I thought that her meeting with trump in November was part of her January fact finding still_one Apr 2017 #75

Thank you for withdrawing that statement, then. virtualobserver Apr 2017 #77

Yes gabbard is defending assad.. when all the facts point Cha Apr 2017 #100

She actually has. Democrats lose credibility when they deny that words have meanings synergie Apr 2017 #79

so, enlighten me with her "dissembling" virtualobserver Apr 2017 #82

Dr. Dean already did. Also, she wouldn't tell anyone who she was meeting with synergie Apr 2017 #116

if you can't answer the question....just say so. virtualobserver Apr 2017 #119

If there is some trouble understanding the answer .... just say so. synergie Apr 2017 #125

it is amazing that you can type so many words, and yet not tell me how she is "dissembling" virtualobserver Apr 2017 #131

I'm amazed that you typed so much, consulted a dictionary synergie Apr 2017 #139

how can someone type so many words, as you do, and yet present no evidence for your case virtualobserver Apr 2017 #140

I guess if one choosees to blind oneself to the actual evidence I presented synergie Apr 2017 #141

you don't present evidence - you tell me what you believe she said - but you never quote her virtualobserver Apr 2017 #143

Except that I have presented evidence, and referred you to the links I pasted. synergie Apr 2017 #144

you present your feelings with no evidence virtualobserver Apr 2017 #145

You keep pretending that the evidence I presented doesn't exist. You've never read my posts synergie Apr 2017 #146

I search for evidence in your posts....but only find feelings virtualobserver Apr 2017 #147

Exactly, synergie.. that's when anyone Loses "Credibility" Cha Apr 2017 #95

Yes she has.. No one is losing credibility for calling out gabbard Cha Apr 2017 #94

that article is misleading and very sloppy virtualobserver Apr 2017 #97

Assad's been killing Syrian Civilians for a long time. Here is an article form 2013 still_one Apr 2017 #98

Exactly, stillone.. gabbard has no reason to be "skeptical" Cha Apr 2017 #103

In 2013 chemical weapons were used in Ghouta, Syria, by the Syrian government still_one Apr 2017 #110

Mahalo for the link from HRW, stillone Cha Apr 2017 #112

Thanks for that link, still_one. nt brer cat Apr 2017 #107

I agree. Since when is expressing an opinion not allowed by a politician? Dean was wrong about nikibatts Apr 2017 #101

Asking for proof is not defending Assad. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2017 #111

I would hate to see her replaced with a Republican Warpy Apr 2017 #2

Voters in Hawai'i have an opportunity next year. Who's up for opposing her? Hekate Apr 2017 #15

Wasn't there a GOP women in hawaii Chevy Apr 2017 #20

Yes. She's young and idealistic; could be a good addition to the Dems. Hekate Apr 2017 #21

Because if Democrats need anything, it's to move to the right. bluedigger Apr 2017 #35

Because if the Dems need anything it's thoughtful young people who thought they could reform... Hekate Apr 2017 #40

If Evan McMullin will vote for a Dem Chevy Apr 2017 #87

Getting kicked out of the GOP is little more than an indicator of rationality at this point. bluedigger Apr 2017 #99

+100,000... PoiBoy Apr 2017 #58

Gabbart is a former R rpannier Apr 2017 #114

No she isn't... PoiBoy Apr 2017 #132

Yes, Beth Fukumoto. She is a principled Republican. mahina Apr 2017 #53

If there is any replacing, murielm99 Apr 2017 #17

We're talking about Hawaii here, that's not likely to happen. Hopefully there will be a primary. George II Apr 2017 #39

Rest easy on that one. mahina Apr 2017 #52

In the wake of Tulsi's comments on Assad and her comradebillyboy Apr 2017 #10

That's a fallacious argument: Fallacy of Association. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #12

So nobody thinks it's remotely possible that Tulsi is right to question? mr_lebowski Apr 2017 #18

Your title's premise not at stake. The argument is that Tulsi Gabbard is not trustworthy on Syria.nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #23

she put her life on the line in IRAQ and saw people blown up and dead virtualobserver Apr 2017 #29

A logical fallacy there; it fails to make her reliable on Syria. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #47

It is not a logical fallacy virtualobserver Apr 2017 #48

That was not the logical fallacy I was pointing to. You are arguing obliquely. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #49

there was no logical fallacy...your argument was a straw man virtualobserver Apr 2017 #50

Flynn and Oliver North served as well Chevy Apr 2017 #84

This is "Democratic Underground" and I am a Democrat and so is Tulsi. virtualobserver Apr 2017 #86

Flynn is a democrat crazy one but Dem none the less. N/T Chevy Apr 2017 #88

Joe Lieberman was a democrat Chevy Apr 2017 #89

You wrote it in direct reply, so yes you said that. Readers can read and they will. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #91

It wasn't a response to your "post title" virtualobserver Apr 2017 #96

Why is she an Assad apologist? Why did she meet secretly with him? Hekate Apr 2017 #24

Same here. mahina Apr 2017 #54

I think Tulsi was simply asking for an independent check on what happened there The_Casual_Observer Apr 2017 #25

as an old Deaniac, I am shocked virtualobserver Apr 2017 #26

He's jumped right in to this with both feet, it's as if we haven't been burned The_Casual_Observer Apr 2017 #28

If she wanted an independent check, why not ask Doctors Without Borders? Hekate Apr 2017 #41

Ok, what does doctors without borders do in this situation? The_Casual_Observer Apr 2017 #102

Aren't you special. Google is your friend. Hekate Apr 2017 #118

And here's a very very well-reasoned article re: this general subject you should read mr_lebowski Apr 2017 #133

More news aggregate... Cooley Hurd Apr 2017 #27

They really need to rename their site "Regurgitated Story" bluedigger Apr 2017 #36

Primary her. theaocp Apr 2017 #31

+100% mazzarro Apr 2017 #37

Tulsi Gabbard is, IMHO,... MarianJack Apr 2017 #33

Agree- in a few words: She's a nut OKNancy Apr 2017 #38

You are misrepresenting Gabbard's position. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2017 #65

Did he call for Manchin and Heitcamp to resign for voting for the corproFascist Gorsuch? n2doc Apr 2017 #42

Bu. .bu. .but that's different! Jake Stern Apr 2017 #67

Agreed.. disillusioned73 Apr 2017 #135

For those unaware of what Gabbard said, she doesn't believe Assad was behind the gas attack. still_one Apr 2017 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author virtualobserver Apr 2017 #55

For those unaware of what Gabbard said, read her own words... PoiBoy Apr 2017 #61

Her press release makes Dean's comments rather bizarre. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2017 #64

That ISN'T the point of the OP. She made a statement that she DOESN'T believe Assad is responsible still_one Apr 2017 #66

I'm sorry... PoiBoy Apr 2017 #104

Here is the CNN link still_one Apr 2017 #109

They are obsessed with making Tulsi the Devil virtualobserver Apr 2017 #129

Well.. disillusioned73 Apr 2017 #136

shhhhhhhhhhh......you speak the words which cannot be spoken virtualobserver Apr 2017 #137

Interestingly... PoiBoy Apr 2017 #138

Thanks for pointing it out.. disillusioned73 Apr 2017 #142

I agree it's time for Trump to resign rockfordfile Apr 2017 #59

Finally! Answerman Apr 2017 #60

Trump fellated Assad in the debates didn't he? Jonny Appleseed Apr 2017 #68

I like Gabbard. David__77 Apr 2017 #74

When Chump and Pence agree reggaehead Apr 2017 #90

Although they never officially named anyone as Bernie's running mate, she was floated LaydeeBug Apr 2017 #108

K & R SunSeeker Apr 2017 #113

Has he called for the removal of Joe Manchin? That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #124

Wow.. disillusioned73 Apr 2017 #134