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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
25. I am sorry about your loss.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:06 PM
Jun 2012

Nevertheless, as a cycling enthusiast who has read about this issue, I can tell you that the chances that Lance Armstrong has been clean the whole time are essentially nil. I think that if you were to read and research more about this, you would also come to the same conclusion. I agree that, like OJ Simpson, he is legally entitled to the presumption of innocence, but that doesn't mean he actually is innocent.

I concede, there may be more of a moral dilemma to this besides just whether or not Lance cheated. I can appreciate that the image of Lance provides comfort and strength to many people. Does that really make it all OK? To me, it makes it more insidious. Not only did he cheat and take drugs that potentially put his health at risk (and encourage others on his team to do the same, and bully people who tried to make cycling a cleaner sport), but then he has the audacity to pretend that it's all really his inner strength that he found during his cancer fight.

I can agree that lying to a particular child or cancer patient in order to give them strength to fight on is the right thing to do. But, as a society, as adults, I don't agree that we should condone what Lance Armstrong did simply because, as long you don't pay too close attention, the myth of Lance Armstrong is inspirational.

Anti-Doping Agency charges Lance Armstrong [View all] UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 OP
Good. I wouldn't care except for his holier than thou attitude. russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #1
Can they charge him for excessively asskissing Dubya? Ken Burch Jun 2012 #3
Dubya beat Armstrong in that cyclying race in Texas Far and Square bahrbearian Jun 2012 #27
I'm not a Lance Armstrong fan(he lost me when he treated Sheryl Crow like dogshit) Ken Burch Jun 2012 #2
True That..... Grassy Knoll Jun 2012 #4
He didn't fail a "drug test" because the whole system was corrupt. UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #5
I'd be willing to give Hamilton more credibility points rocktivity Jun 2012 #6
I would agree with you, in general, if it was just Hamilton. But several other witnesses... joshcryer Jun 2012 #9
Because he wasn't taking drugs that aren't normal to have, as I understand it. boppers Jun 2012 #7
I don't know enough about competitive cycling to be able to answer these next questions myself Ken Burch Jun 2012 #8
From what I gather the invesgitation has been on going for awhile. joshcryer Jun 2012 #10
Then what is it about the performance of the "top tier"that would have aroused suspicion? Ken Burch Jun 2012 #12
By top tier I mean Armstrong's inner circle. joshcryer Jun 2012 #13
Oh. I thought you meant all the top cyclists. Sorry. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #14
Here's the AP story that talks about the charges for the others: joshcryer Jun 2012 #15
His birth certificate obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #22
The blood trick is purely about oxygen carrying capacity. joshcryer Jun 2012 #11
There is basically no doubt that Lance was doping. DanTex Jun 2012 #16
This isn't corruption demwing Jun 2012 #17
True, there is no definitive proof in this incident. DanTex Jun 2012 #18
Maybe, just maybe, Armstrong defeated cancer demwing Jun 2012 #19
Further, even if Armstrong is guilty demwing Jun 2012 #20
So it doesn't matter that Armstrong is a fraud? DanTex Jun 2012 #21
I wasn't aware that being accused of something makes you guilty demwing Jun 2012 #23
I am sorry about your loss. DanTex Jun 2012 #25
"Not only did he cheat and take drugs" demwing Jun 2012 #26
Fair enough. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #24
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