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25. I don't agree with you. As in the Martin case, the violence would not have been "initiated"

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:24 PM

Jun 2012

if had not chased him down. Remember, Zimmerman was told by the police not to follow Trevon.

Why is so hard for people to understand the "Stand your ground" law does/should not give you a right to pursue someone and just fucking kill them.

It's "STAND" your ground. In other words, if someone is breaking into your house, take them out. I have no problem with that.

Chasing or stalking someone then things turn violent and you kill them. That's Manslaughter at the very least.

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Florida man freed under stand-your- ground defence shot dead in Miami [View all] Judi Lynn Jun 2012 OP

Karma's a bitch. nt Speck Tater Jun 2012 #1

Yup. what goes around comes around. n/t RebelOne Jun 2012 #29

Hopefully, karma will catch up with the gang-banging shit-stains... -..__... Jun 2012 #44

As you sow so shall you reap nt bowens43 Jun 2012 #2

He might as well have let that punk-ass burglar finish him off slackmaster Jun 2012 #3

It's stand your ground, not chase 'em down. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2012 #6

"It's stand your ground, not chase 'em down." Scurrilous Jun 2012 #7

That is good. Hoyt Jun 2012 #12

I don't know if it's ROFL material but it is accurate and succinct. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #24

Perfect freshwest Jun 2012 #54

Good phrase! bongbong Jun 2012 #17

But why did Garcia have to chase him? EC Jun 2012 #30

After he stabbed the guy, he kept the bags of stolen radios csziggy Jun 2012 #48

I like the SYG laws, they're an inevitable solution to stupid. It's just too bad that the Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #46

Karma Drale Jun 2012 #4

Sooner VTX Jun 2012 #36

I would guess that this will not be the last time that this happens under that law. Hopefully it jwirr Jun 2012 #5

+1 savalez Jun 2012 #8

The judge said Garcia could lawfully pursue a fleeing felon who had just stolen his property. Lasher Jun 2012 #9

But that is exactly where the danger comes in. Taking the law into your own hands means that you jwirr Jun 2012 #10

What police? Lasher Jun 2012 #14

Don't think so. EC Jun 2012 #32

Calling the cops would have been a futile exercise. Lasher Jun 2012 #34

Then I would have let him go EC Jun 2012 #35

That's cool, I might have done the same. Lasher Jun 2012 #37

In the moment, adrenaline can take over. EFerrari Jun 2012 #15

You have chased me clear down an an entire DU thread and into another one. Lasher Jun 2012 #47

LOL. EFerrari Jun 2012 #52

WELL PLAYED! boppers Jun 2012 #74

I'm not sure about "moral right." Killing people over property is questionable. Hoyt Jun 2012 #13

Did you read the story? Lasher Jun 2012 #16

So that justifies killing him with a knife, gun, or whatever. Hoyt Jun 2012 #21

You are conflating. Lasher Jun 2012 #26

What is the definition of "chase down"? Does that include rhett o rick Jun 2012 #40

someone swings a bag at you? you turn around and leave. you don't stab them to death. n/t progressivebydesign Jun 2012 #56

Someone swings an argument like this at me. Lasher Jun 2012 #58

That is the intelligent choice, but it is correct that it is not legally required ProgressiveProfessor Jun 2012 #60

You have the "legal and "cough cough" Moral right to do that? Kill someone for PROPERTY? Lochloosa Jun 2012 #18

I dig your signature!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #20

You welcome to steal it...i did. And I promise not to swing a bag of them at you. Lochloosa Jun 2012 #27

LOL!! Excellent! Thanks!! :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #43

That's not what the judge said and it's not what I said. Lasher Jun 2012 #23

I don't agree with you. As in the Martin case, the violence would not have been "initiated" Lochloosa Jun 2012 #25

I don't have a hard time understanding SYG laws. Lasher Jun 2012 #33

Let me see if I got this right...... PavePusher Jun 2012 #63

No. You have a right to chase after a thief. hack89 Jun 2012 #31

Chasing someone is you attacking them. savalez Jun 2012 #61

Chasing someone who has stolen your property is not an attack. PavePusher Jun 2012 #64

So SYG for the thief but not the robbery victim? OK hack89 Jun 2012 #65

Sure, if you believe savalez Jun 2012 #66

The standards for self defense didn't change with SYG hack89 Jun 2012 #67

I prefer neither. savalez Jun 2012 #71

That is not a reasonable choice hack89 Jun 2012 #73

Friends of the burglar? 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #11

Yet another problem with this Stand Your Ground law is that people who get off will face Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #19

This was not a revenge shooting. Lasher Jun 2012 #22

Oh, thanks for the clarification. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #41

Innocent or set up? Great Caesars Ghost Jun 2012 #51

SYG continues to have broad support ProgressiveProfessor Jun 2012 #28

SADLY!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #42

Is this the same clod secondvariety Jun 2012 #38

Yep. Scurrilous Jun 2012 #45

Karma DiverDave Jun 2012 #39

Chased him more than a block to kill him and was acquitted under the Shoot-Whoever-You-Want valerief Jun 2012 #49

Not even close to what happened, but lets not facts spoil your screed ProgressiveProfessor Jun 2012 #55

Well, your disagreement contains no details to persuade me otherwise. nt valerief Jun 2012 #57

Read the thread...it is clearly there ProgressiveProfessor Jun 2012 #59

Meanwhile... Scurrilous Jun 2012 #50

Don't you get it? Warn go to jail; Kill go free. savalez Jun 2012 #62

Who lives by the sword will die by the sword longship Jun 2012 #53

Good harun Jun 2012 #68

WTF a good about it? LisaL Jun 2012 #69

It was raining justice, and he forgot his umbrella. harun Jun 2012 #70

Since when random gang violence is justice? LisaL Jun 2012 #72