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sofa king

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50. Sadly, yes.

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:14 AM

Jul 2016

You may not like it, but democracy is at constant risk of falling to the will of uninformed people taken under the spell of aspiring despots.

That's why we have an electoral system instead of direct election; that's why Democrats have superdelegates; and taking that safety-lock out of the equation is how you get your Mussolinis, Hitlers, Marcoses, Mugabes, Putins and Trumps.

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Effort To Abolish Superdelegates Fails At DNC Rules Meeting [View all] Purveyor Jul 2016 OP

Superdelegates give people of color more of a voice in our party. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #1

Lord just hold my words... eom Purveyor Jul 2016 #2

Congressional Black Caucus was strongly opposed to getting rid of super delegates oberliner Jul 2016 #3

Congressional Black Caucus PAC endorses Hillary Clinton Jopin Klobe Jul 2016 #18

Exactly oberliner Jul 2016 #23

Of course they are MichMan Jul 2016 #57

Please ... Jopin Klobe Jul 2016 #19

Yep. Glad we're keeping them. The floor vote will fail. stopbush Jul 2016 #5

Me, too. eom BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #52

People of color get and deserve one vote, no more, no less Craig234 Jul 2016 #7

The regular delegate process, because of time and cost involved, weighs against POC. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #12

Solve it in a way that makes things better not worse Craig234 Jul 2016 #41

You perfectly summed up where my head is today. paparush Jul 2016 #27

^ THIS. Sand Rat Expat Jul 2016 #30

Yes, after witnessing the debacle that was the Repub. nominating process, Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #15

+100 nt reACTIONary Jul 2016 #29

This is why Trump's pandering to the racists XemaSab Jul 2016 #32

No, that's not what I'm saying. Superdelegates don't make black votes count more. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #46

Nobody was disenfranchised. Remove all super delegates, Clinton still wins decisively. Midnight Writer Jul 2016 #47

this ^^^^^^^^^^ Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #37

I thought POC voting participation was higher than their share of the population? MichMan Jul 2016 #56

No. Primaries, particularly caucuses, suppress votes. nt SunSeeker Jul 2016 #58

Undemocratic. HR_Pufnstuf Jul 2016 #4

Really??? Nothing compared to caucuses. nt DURHAM D Jul 2016 #6

False argument Craig234 Jul 2016 #8

Please see response # 9 DURHAM D Jul 2016 #10

yes but a candidate we know did great in caucuses so they are automatically democratic lol nt msongs Jul 2016 #9

From what I read its largely meant to prevent spoiler candidates like say cstanleytech Jul 2016 #11

Except each state is different with election turnout. LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #26

If I recall correctly, the idea behind SD's The Green Manalishi Jul 2016 #13

Thank you ... Jopin Klobe Jul 2016 #21

Man, with all due respect, that's still no reason paparush Jul 2016 #33

I feel ya... The Green Manalishi Jul 2016 #54

That's a solid, well stated response. paparush Jul 2016 #55

You're welcome The Green Manalishi Jul 2016 #59

If the Republicans had Super delegates mainstreetonce Jul 2016 #14

If The People had a true vote each for their individual voices ... Jopin Klobe Jul 2016 #22

That's why we have them. But HRC had the Hortensis Jul 2016 #24

+1 (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #31

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #16

How'd that work out for her in 2008 ToxMarz Jul 2016 #25

I wonder which way the 800 or so super delegates will vote? Renew Deal Jul 2016 #17

most will vote for the next President of the United States of America aka Hillary Clinton Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #36

I mean on getting rid of super-delegates Renew Deal Jul 2016 #39

they will vote "keep" Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #40

Good news! liberal N proud Jul 2016 #20

Superdelegates are a safeguard against hysterical populism (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #28

OUTSTANDING!!! MohRokTah Jul 2016 #34

Close the primaries and ffs get rid of the caucuses, the SD's are fine with me Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #35

Good riversedge Jul 2016 #38

You know why Trump is the Republican nominee? sofa king Jul 2016 #42

Sounds as though the will of the people be damned then. Exactly why Trump could very Purveyor Jul 2016 #44

+1,000 n/t LarryNM Jul 2016 #45

Exactly Astraea Jul 2016 #48

so we should get rid of Caucuses ? JI7 Jul 2016 #49

Sadly, yes. sofa king Jul 2016 #50

I am looking forward to the floor vote Gothmog Jul 2016 #43

Release all delegates and have a floor vote- fairness for both sides. Dkc05 Jul 2016 #51

We vote but the Super Delegates decide the outcome RegexReader Jul 2016 #53