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seabeckind

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35. Hmm, do I see some Sander's footprints?

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:14 PM

Jul 2016

While Hillary adopting the public option might look like a flip-flop from her incrementalism,

bowing to the wishes of the sitting president would not.

I think we are seeing quite a bit of the Bernie influence inserting itself into this race.

The establishment knows that they need the Bernie people. And they most definitely need those Obama independents from 2008.

Whether they will take the next step -- driving a stake thru the heart of the neoliberalism reaganomics????

Stay tuned.

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Obama calls for adding public option to ObamaCare [View all] DonViejo Jul 2016 OP

one step at a time, and this is what Hillary will announce tomorrow with Bernie, when he officially still_one Jul 2016 #1

In this country, sulphurdunn Jul 2016 #8

Since they didn't have the votes, there would have been nothing. I understand the myth still_one Jul 2016 #14

i could not agree more. Baby steps. Got to learn to walk before you can run. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #15

Damn it ... Haven't you listened? Incrementalism is evil ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #76

The final vote was by reconcilation though. And speaking of myths, the reality was a lot more merrily Jul 2016 #53

Wonder if you'll get a response from that one....nah.... SammyWinstonJack Jul 2016 #57

If I do, I probably know already what it will be. I've seen it here scores of times. merrily Jul 2016 #58

I don't understand your point ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #77

I've forgotten: Did you ever discuss actual issues with me without resorting to personal insults merrily Jul 2016 #92

Thus, no country every having lost a war has since written history? LanternWaste Jul 2016 #89

Not a claim I made. merrily Jul 2016 #93

Correct - one step at a time. What his and Democrats' objective was in 2010.... George II Jul 2016 #22

I guess wallyworld2 Jul 2016 #116

good to see AntiBank Jul 2016 #2

Cool. bigwillq Jul 2016 #3

Definitely. forest444 Jul 2016 #50

How was 2009 the best chance of getting the P/O through? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #79

Wow PatSeg Jul 2016 #4

It is Old Codger Jul 2016 #17

True PatSeg Jul 2016 #18

My basic reasoning Old Codger Jul 2016 #27

Yes PatSeg Jul 2016 #28

Precisely Sherman A1 Jul 2016 #30

I've learned not to take a lot of PatSeg Jul 2016 #41

You are correct, however Sherman A1 Jul 2016 #56

This is true PatSeg Jul 2016 #71

I think Obama is only saying this because the ACA is starting to fail. Dustlawyer Jul 2016 #61

The ACA helped me personally, but... geardaddy Jul 2016 #72

I swear, DU must be the absolute epicenter of ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #83

You misunderstand me. Dustlawyer Jul 2016 #101

The P/O is the next step in the direction. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #102

Sadly try! Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #97

My doubts Old Codger Jul 2016 #114

I know all to well Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #123

It was always going to happen. joshcryer Jul 2016 #103

Yes, I knew it was inevitable PatSeg Jul 2016 #113

Just like to thank Joe Lieberman and Blanche Lincoln for killing this policy off bluestateguy Jul 2016 #5

And Ben Nelson, too. calimary Jul 2016 #52

Yep. joshcryer Jul 2016 #104

I think we've seen this "pitch" before. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2016 #6

I was thinking that too... bullsnarfle Jul 2016 #62

More of this. Make it a debate issue. Make it so even corporate media can't censor it. Auggie Jul 2016 #7

The public plan did not make it into the final legislation because of Joe Lieberman annabanana Jul 2016 #9

It wasn't just Lieberman. There were half a dozen blue dog Democrats who TrollBuster9090 Jul 2016 #10

Max Baucus, who chaired the Senate Finance Committee BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #13

This is totally false. joshcryer Jul 2016 #110

I actually watched almost all the hearings BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #117

Soon to be re-Senator Bayh seabeckind Jul 2016 #33

Yep. I'd rather have Bayh than a Republican. BUT.... TrollBuster9090 Jul 2016 #51

Obama couldn't rock the boat. joshcryer Jul 2016 #111

hopefully for only a few months more rurallib Jul 2016 #11

Speaking of Lieberman... OnyxCollie Jul 2016 #43

I suspect this announcement is, more, to ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #85

Good on him....about damn time! Moostache Jul 2016 #12

Good! yardwork Jul 2016 #16

Single payer is still our goal GreydeeThos Jul 2016 #19

Public Option is the quickest way to single payer right now. N/T Hoyt Jul 2016 #20

Yep ... But first, the public had to be shown that the gop ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #88

Exactly. I think that is why we might be able to enact a Public Option now. Heavy lifting is done, Hoyt Jul 2016 #90

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #96

This is great TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #21

Just rejected from ACA... freebrew Jul 2016 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #95

So R governors don't expand Medicaid... joshcryer Jul 2016 #105

MISSOURI... freebrew Jul 2016 #126

The SCOTUS shot down Medicaid expansion. joshcryer Jul 2016 #128

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #23

I've just been reading his JAMA article... wysi Jul 2016 #24

Thanks for this wonderful piece from the genius Barack Hussein Obama. freshwest Jul 2016 #121

NOW you're talking Skittles Jul 2016 #25

I wonder what the game plan is? Amimnoch Jul 2016 #26

2024 in all likelihood Ash_F Jul 2016 #32

Good! Been waiting for this. nt Quackers Jul 2016 #29

"a concerted push by the Democratic Party" Ash_F Jul 2016 #31

Will there be a sit in for the public option? I doubt it. Skeeter Barnes Jul 2016 #34

Hmm, do I see some Sander's footprints? seabeckind Jul 2016 #35

No, you don't. The public option was an Obama idea in 08 La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #36

And there it sat, the seed, awaiting some moisture. seabeckind Jul 2016 #37

The idea itself did not origniate with Obama, he advocated a public option by saying Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #44

If the 2008 presidential candidates Edwards was first to propose it. joshcryer Jul 2016 #106

All the top three candidates proposed it. joshcryer Jul 2016 #107

I think you do. ozone_man Jul 2016 #42

had he done this in 09 The Wizard Jul 2016 #38

^^^ THE PROPER RESPONSE TO THIS NEWS ^^^ nt Dawgs Jul 2016 #67

It would have never passed underpants Jul 2016 #80

you make it sound like The Wizard Jul 2016 #122

Most are underpants Jul 2016 #124

No, people stayed home because of defeatist bullshit. joshcryer Jul 2016 #108

Was it late last year or early this year that Obama redefined lame duck presidency.... Hekate Jul 2016 #39

Published in JAMA no less! longship Jul 2016 #40

Heads will explode....with a wimper LiberalLovinLug Jul 2016 #45

On the way to a single payer system Cary Jul 2016 #46

Let's put the public option on be Party Platform in 2016!!! BlueEye Jul 2016 #47

Nice billhicks76 Jul 2016 #48

Baby steps to the emergency room. Fuckin' A. JEB Jul 2016 #49

NOW, he's worried about what he characterized as a sliver during the town meetings of 2009? merrily Jul 2016 #54

To call doubling down on (and mandating) employer-sponsored coverage "not perfect" is... MadDAsHell Jul 2016 #55

Medicare for All, including dental, optical, hearing aids and mental health services. Scuba Jul 2016 #59

Because red states opted out of the Medicaid expansion IronLionZion Jul 2016 #60

Many have argued that the ACA will open the door to Universal health care--This is what Repugs riversedge Jul 2016 #63

Um, we were within support from one or two Senators. Dawgs Jul 2016 #69

I was angry and disappointed at the time also. But, Obama could not riversedge Jul 2016 #70

I didn't say that he should have made it a requirement for passage. Dawgs Jul 2016 #73

It was in there literally a week before the vote. joshcryer Jul 2016 #109

excellent JAMA article, thank you President Obama for taking the time to publish this in public. Sunlei Jul 2016 #64

What's the point this late in the day? PaulaFarrell Jul 2016 #65

Setting it up for next Prez. Hoyt Jul 2016 #91

that would be nice, but I live in a reality based universe. Javaman Jul 2016 #66

Yep. nt Dawgs Jul 2016 #68

He just introduced it underpants Jul 2016 #82

and again... Javaman Jul 2016 #87

Get back Congress and it happens. joshcryer Jul 2016 #112

of course, but that takes...getting back congress. Javaman Jul 2016 #115

Thanks Bernie!!! HE put Single Payer in the National Dialogue where no one else would do so. yodermon Jul 2016 #75

Right! Thanks Bernie! mpcamb Jul 2016 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author mpcamb Jul 2016 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author mpcamb Jul 2016 #120

Bernie and Hillary will beat Trump in November.... heresAthingdotcom Jul 2016 #78

And let the government negotiate drug prices! nt spud_demon Jul 2016 #81

Good. Next logical step, IMO. n/t Triana Jul 2016 #84

"because of opposition from some Democrats in Congress" arcane1 Jul 2016 #86

And offer it to EVERYONE, not just those without AllyCat Jul 2016 #94

A little late Obama Angry Dragon Jul 2016 #98

he's Lucy holding the football for our Charlie Brown again yurbud Jul 2016 #129

I wish this idea stood a chance wryter2000 Jul 2016 #99

AS Candidate Obama said in the 2008 debates, bvar22 Jul 2016 #100

Oh really? ... Helen Borg Jul 2016 #125

Worth another kick!! BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2016 #127

(Checks calendar...) Earth_First Jul 2016 #130