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LanternWaste

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37. One of Upton Sinclair's antagonists in The Jungle argued that very thing...
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 09:55 AM
Jun 2012

One of Upton Sinclair's antagonists in The Jungle argued that very thing...

this is absurd, there's no good reason not to label the gmo foods Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #1
What's your "scientific justification for special labeling"? ag_dude Jun 2012 #2
What's your "scientific justification for freedom"? harun Jun 2012 #4
Your question doesn't make any sense. ag_dude Jun 2012 #8
Neither does yours. harun Jun 2012 #12
If big ag is so proud of their GMO creations why don't they label them as such and market them? ag_dude Jun 2012 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author roody Jun 2012 #61
You mention freedom, but do you have a sound concept of it? what_is_freedom Jun 2012 #144
It seems that non-GMO producers have a waiting market Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #152
as many countries have. A chance in hell we can ban it here in US? Labeling is a compromise Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #169
Labeling is not a compromise. HuckleB Jul 2014 #175
thanks for this post. Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #170
Yet again - What's your "scientific justification for special labeling"? ag_dude Jun 2012 #15
Public Health harun Jun 2012 #25
Which of those studies do you think applies directly to public health? ag_dude Jun 2012 #30
The Indiana State Medical Association and the Illinois State Medical Society urge labeling (2012). proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #47
I think that is an interesting argument. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #142
See genetically engineered bovine growth hormone fiasco, rBGH (breast/prostate cancer rates go up). proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #51
More context. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #53
The American Academy Of Environmental Medicine Calls For Moratorium On GM Foods (2009). proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #54
Who cares? arikara Jun 2012 #80
I don't know what his justification is. FlaGranny Jun 2012 #141
Crock and a lot of it. LaurenG Jun 2012 #23
Oh, the Monsanto boogey man too. ag_dude Jun 2012 #27
One of Upton Sinclair's antagonists in The Jungle argued that very thing... LanternWaste Jun 2012 #37
Yeah so they should just label it. LaurenG Jun 2012 #44
Yes, you sound like the right wing machine that you probably represent BanzaiBonnie Jun 2012 #56
It IS illegal to label food as not containing GMO, you really dont know what you are talking about stockholmer Jun 2012 #82
see my posts in this thread, you are dead wrong on all accounts so far stockholmer Jun 2012 #83
And they chose NOT to xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #154
Exactly. HuckleB Jul 2014 #195
"Who said you should be required to buy food that you don't want to buy?" A Simple Game Jun 2012 #68
"scientific justification for special labeling"? A Simple Game Jun 2012 #66
Start here: DeSwiss Jun 2012 #71
A Comparison of the Effects of Three GM Corn Varieties on Mammalian Health PostCapitalist Jun 2012 #74
If I don't want to buy GMO foods, I should have the choice Scootaloo Jun 2012 #77
Monsanto GMO's linked to organ failure + GMO causes sterility in lab animals in 3 generations + more stockholmer Jun 2012 #81
Why? Eljo_Don Jun 2012 #93
I don't think that consumer choice requires a scientific justification... LanternWaste Aug 2012 #153
Surely this isn't a serious question. Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #167
Actually there is a good reason not to label because nearly all processed foods do contain GMO yellowcanine Jun 2012 #125
Yeah, everybody's so healthy that we should just accept the status quo. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #127
Please don't make assumptions about what I think or don't think. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #130
even that might be helpful for many people Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #128
Few people pay much attention to food labels so I don't think so. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #131
ok, well that is a fair response. It would eat into their profits. Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #168
is this the food genetically modified with toxins? 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #151
that's the one Voice for Peace Aug 2012 #156
lol on too pooped to scoop 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #157
seriously rat poison (you probably know already, it made the rats very sick.) Voice for Peace Aug 2012 #158
actually, no I didn't know about the rats 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #159
Do you still believe in all those fantasies? HuckleB Jul 2014 #164
no trust for Monsanto 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #171
Monsanto? HuckleB Jul 2014 #173
I must be missing your point. 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #183
Wow! You just posted several of the usual anti-GMO lies. HuckleB Jul 2014 #186
u work for monsanto? 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #187
And now the shill gambit. HuckleB Jul 2014 #188
well, I'm not really pushing anything 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #189
Well, it's interesting that you will repeat dishonest propaganda, but... HuckleB Jul 2014 #190
whatever 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #191
You keep responding, but you have no way to support your stance. HuckleB Jul 2014 #194
not going to prove anything to you 2pooped2pop Aug 2014 #196
exactly the stuff, lol. Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #166
There is no good reason to label GMOs. HuckleB Jul 2014 #163
yes I do. People have a right to know what they are buying! Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #165
Knowing the technology used to develop gives you no actual information. HuckleB Jul 2014 #172
I don't get your question, & believe you may be trying to bait me so I'll decline to engage, thanks. Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #184
Bait you? HuckleB Jul 2014 #185
odd that that poster dug up this two year old post to 2pooped2pop Jul 2014 #192
I didn't even notice how old the post was. Voice for Peace Jul 2014 #193
Who elected these assholes? Oh yah, NOBODY. harun Jun 2012 #3
That's because they're the scientists. ag_dude Jun 2012 #5
the ama are doctors and quacks, not scientist! part man all 86 Jun 2012 #10
Oh, okay, sorry about that. ag_dude Jun 2012 #11
ama is polictical. part man all 86 Jun 2012 #19
Okay then, so be it. ag_dude Jun 2012 #24
Transparency LaurenG Jun 2012 #48
instead of defending the non-labeling position of Monsanto & the AMA Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #52
Politics mixing with medicine! tavalon Jun 2012 #36
That the AMA is even making a statement on this should be a tipoff Gormy Cuss Jun 2012 #46
23 years as a Registered Nurse tavalon Jun 2012 #49
lol Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #58
Nurses know about feces. : ) n/t Gormy Cuss Jun 2012 #87
I would rather have physicians making recommendations about food safety than politicians. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #126
Okay Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #6
Right. Because Tomatoes frequently mate with fish. GOTV Jun 2012 #22
No, not just. tavalon Jun 2012 #31
No what they are saying is that the GM process does not inherently make food less safe. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #129
I understand that Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #132
Almost all processed foods contain GMO. So labeling is pretty much useless. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #133
Labeling is done in at least 49 countries worldwide and alternatives to GMOsourced food exist there. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #134
"Labeling is done in 49 countries" is not a valid argument. Look up "is/ought fallacy" yellowcanine Jun 2012 #145
Regardless, I would still like to know if the food I'm eating has been genetically altered. Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #7
You have that choice. ag_dude Jun 2012 #9
What's wrong with just being able to glance at any food package and tell if it has GMO ingredients? Fumesucker Jun 2012 #13
Nope, that's why you can already do it. ag_dude Jun 2012 #17
What is so scary about labeling, Mr. Monsanto? eom roody Jun 2012 #63
What do people have to hide? Fumesucker Jun 2012 #96
If the GMO foods are not labeled as such, what choice do I have? Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #16
You do have choices. ag_dude Jun 2012 #20
NO you can't classykaren Jun 2012 #41
Freedom of choice denvine Jun 2012 #18
We HAVE freedom of choice ag_dude Jun 2012 #21
The issue is that the consumer has a right to know what they are purchasing. Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #26
Then choose to go with food that is labeled. ag_dude Jun 2012 #32
I don't recall that I have ever seen a label that says a food is NOT GMO. Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #43
Yes I have. On some food items we are starting to see "No GMO's" "No BGH".. PostCapitalist Jun 2012 #75
Do you get paid by the post or by the hour? FiveGoodMen Jun 2012 #72
Exactly. DeSwiss Jun 2012 #73
I think it is by the post siligut Jun 2012 #85
Yep. Too bad the air quality of DU goes down with every outburst of trollish flatulence. freshwest Jun 2012 #88
LOL, I thought I smelled something siligut Jun 2012 #91
The repetition is a dead give away, and the smell. You just can't escape... Le Sigh... freshwest Jun 2012 #92
Only labeling will give the consumer choice harun Jun 2012 #29
Then tell them. ag_dude Jun 2012 #33
Why is the industry resistant to the labeling? Gormy Cuss Jun 2012 #50
because the invisible hand of the market will slap them in the face... n/t nebenaube Jun 2012 #108
Fuck you, American Medical Association for fucking me tavalon Jun 2012 #28
Excuse me? cbrer Jun 2012 #34
That's called middle management/lawyerly speak tavalon Jun 2012 #40
For those I was having conversations with. ag_dude Jun 2012 #35
Actually, that's really polite tavalon Jun 2012 #42
sounds like you were already at work Viva_La_Revolution Jun 2012 #45
So, if... cyberswede Jun 2012 #38
Thank Bill clinton classykaren Jun 2012 #39
I wonder how much the AMA got paid, and how? hunter Jun 2012 #55
G20 Leaders Declaration? Trillo Jun 2012 #60
Reducing the diversity of food crops kills more people than it saves. hunter Jun 2012 #69
I trust doctors more than random technophobes on the internet Odin2005 Jun 2012 #57
Sorry, see posts #47, 51, 53, 54 - it's doctors vs doctors. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #62
7/6/12 NEWS - The 'Monsanto Rider': Are Biotech Companies About to Gain Immunity from Federal Law? proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #147
I will be voting to label GMOs in November. roody Jun 2012 #59
How many courses in nutrition does roody Jun 2012 #64
Zero. roody Jul 2014 #180
I don't see any health reason but . . . 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #65
More from the OP link. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #67
Anyone who listens to the AMA..... DeSwiss Jun 2012 #70
That's way too pessimistic. I think a huge brawl is happening within the AMA over this (post #47). proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #76
Actually considering whom we're talking about and..... DeSwiss Jun 2012 #78
Do you know how your Senator voted on the Sanders-Boxer amendment to permit states to require labels proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #86
Unfortunately I do know...... DeSwiss Jun 2012 #89
A clue is in the sticker: RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #79
Thanks for the info. Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #84
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! DeSwiss Jun 2012 #90
This is what I was looking for. Mz Pip Jun 2012 #95
Processed food additives from soy, corn, canola, sugar beets, cottonseed are GMO unless organic. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #97
+1 Thanks! :) n/t RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #113
I've been wondering about this TuxedoKat Jun 2012 #118
Thanks! BlueIris Jun 2012 #99
This isn't reliable at all harun Jun 2012 #100
Why isn't it reliable "at all"? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2012 #101
Because people think you can use this to see if it is GMO harun Jun 2012 #102
Food Rules by Michael Pollan provides a simple guide without mentioning the term GMO. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #103
Muchos Gracias, very good info. harun Jun 2012 #104
Thank you for all the links and info. RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #109
Choosing organic where feasible eliminates GMOs. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #112
Fair point, and thanks, but that poster was talking about produce, saying sticker provides a clue DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2012 #106
"For those of you who ARE interested in avoiding GMOs" harun Jun 2012 #107
I simultaneously feel that we're both on the same side, and that you just want to be confrontational DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2012 #110
I get your anger about this, however, RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #111
Understood harun Jun 2012 #114
I see what your saying. RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #115
Defeatist malarky or, rather, wishful thinking by fake food biz considering abysmal health outcomes. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #116
I'm very disappointed to see the number of Democrats voting nay with the Republican on this. RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #122
About all any of us can do Mz Pip Jun 2012 #117
I would just like to know Mz Pip Jun 2012 #94
It may not be a question of need in the minds of the AMA but it is a question of what the public Citizen Worker Jun 2012 #98
Jesus Loves Frankenfood warrprayer Jun 2012 #105
Deciphering supermarket code system of fruits/veggies to find out if GMO: mother earth Jun 2012 #119
Just say if the code starts with 8, then the item is GMO; if it starts with 9, it cannot be GMO. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #120
Yes, certainly simplify to whatever suits your needs, but there is much confusion in "organic" & the mother earth Jun 2012 #121
What are you talking about? "GMO organics" do not exist, nor should they, despite what GMO co. want. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #123
Marketing/labeling organics when they aren't...that's what I mean, hence the confusion for the mother earth Jun 2012 #140
17 June 2012, EarthOpenSource Report: "GMO Myths and Truths, An evidence-based examination..." proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #124
Old MacDonald had a Farm, E-I-E-I-O. With a gmo here and a gmo there... proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #135
Friends of the Earth News Release: Going GM-Free in Europe but not USA. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #136
Yup, I read all the comments. proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #137
They might want to reconsider after reading this article posted in another thread: RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #138
I read that this morning. crim son Jun 2012 #143
This message was self-deleted by its author cstanleytech Jul 2014 #178
WATCH! proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #139
Your username might more appropriatley be.... Vanje Jun 2012 #146
I always go to the AMA for my nutritional advice. roody Jul 2012 #148
Mother Jones:"Food Industry Ditches Trans Fats, Kids' Cholesterol Levels Drop" proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #149
CHECK IT OUT - http://www.carighttoknow.org/ proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #150
Why would they think it should be labeled? Trillo Aug 2012 #155
Wouldn't GMO_Free be a better label? One_Life_To_Give Aug 2012 #160
Is my tinfoil hat on straight? Glassunion Aug 2012 #161
that's disgusting. nt LaydeeBug Aug 2012 #162
Why? HuckleB Jul 2014 #174
Have they taken a similar stance on Kosher foods? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #176
This message was self-deleted by its author cstanleytech Jul 2014 #177
The AMA says lots of things that roody Jul 2014 #179
If you want to know if it is or isn't, roody Jul 2014 #181
AMA not a scientific organization KT2000 Jul 2014 #182
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