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MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
41. And my (secular) taxes help support that mission . . .
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 10:47 AM
Jun 2012

A mission that's not intrinsically religious anyway, but simply humane. This is the (male) leadership of a cult in retreat from modernity trying to win a battle with their own parishioners that they lost two generations ago.

I remember some quote from the Catholic operating manual about "rendering unto Caesar . . ." that seems painfully obvious here. To the degree that their institutions intersect with the secular world, the Catholic leadership is going to have to suck it up, just like their founder instructed them 2,000 years ago.

It's like abortion: if you object to abortion, don't have one; if you think contraception is a sin, don't use it.

they hate birth control because it messes up their white baby supply for their adoption agency. n/t progressivebydesign Jun 2012 #1
Um, most of their power in the world, is brown babies. WingDinger Jun 2012 #5
umm. South America has white and black , just like North America does. robinlynne Jun 2012 #21
The catholic hospitals/charities need to be given NO MORE government dollars! Dont call me Shirley Jun 2012 #2
Those gov dollars are payoff to treat all comers. WingDinger Jun 2012 #6
shut down the catholic health system liberalnationalist Jun 2012 #10
While that might feeel good, it would lead to a at least temp disaster. WingDinger Jun 2012 #18
There are Rehab and Nursing Facilities that call themselves glinda Jun 2012 #22
I am a non-Catholic working for the Catholic Health System du_grad Jun 2012 #35
And my (secular) taxes help support that mission . . . MrModerate Jun 2012 #41
The hierarchy broke them. immoderate Jun 2012 #3
If that's not an argument for Single-Payer, then I don't know what is. n/t geardaddy Jun 2012 #4
it is a great reason for single payer liberalnationalist Jun 2012 #12
+1 million geardaddy Jun 2012 #19
Yep. If doing it the HARD way is just too, well, HARD, Volaris Jun 2012 #59
Really? "Religious Freedom"?!? I'm not buying it. RoboNerd Jun 2012 #7
They might be church owned, but they're still businesses Warpy Jun 2012 #8
Q: Why do Catholic Bishops reject birth control? JoePhilly Jun 2012 #9
D liberalnationalist Jun 2012 #11
If this was on the SATs, it would say "Which of these is the BEST choice" and so ... JoePhilly Jun 2012 #51
instead of providing health insurance, they should increase their employees pay magical thyme Jun 2012 #13
"It's not about choice; it's about contraception and control of women." hue Jun 2012 #17
Please send your sister this message from me: Dawson Leery Jun 2012 #31
No great loss. I've never heard of a good one. n/t Peregrine Took Jun 2012 #14
Good. Get that superstition out of medical care. nt tsuki Jun 2012 #15
Then they lose government funding. Simple LynnTTT Jun 2012 #16
I concur. Respect people's rights or don't take the free money. FreeBC Jun 2012 #23
That seems fair. 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #25
agreed n/t maddezmom Jun 2012 #42
They need to go to "leeches' also. glinda Jun 2012 #20
All Catholics are forbidden to use birth control, so the Pope really should favor its widespread 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #24
They are stupid if they don't know goclark Jun 2012 #40
What Rome SAYS we should do, and what actually happens (in America, at least) are 2 different things Volaris Jun 2012 #60
I was a being a bit tongue-in-cheek 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #64
They would rather see women die HockeyMom Jun 2012 #26
So sorry You had to go thro that!! You are so true!! n/t hue Jun 2012 #27
I am sorry to hear that, though not suprised. Dawson Leery Jun 2012 #29
Eliminate all government subsidies/payments to Catholic Hospitals. Dawson Leery Jun 2012 #28
Associated Press: All the Newspeak that's Cleared for Popular Consumption. nt daaron Jun 2012 #30
"unduly cumbersome" DallasNE Jun 2012 #32
Catholic women ALREADY use birth control in larger #'s than Rome would like to admit.... Volaris Jun 2012 #61
I say F__k'em Jake2413 Jun 2012 #33
That's silly. Not EVERY health care facility has the ability... brendan120678 Jun 2012 #43
I think you are over reading my statement Jake2413 Jun 2012 #44
Well I can see the anti-Catholic bigots are out in full force on DU. Shame. n/t SylviaD Jun 2012 #34
Any religion that wants to suck at the public teat . . . MrModerate Jun 2012 #37
Well I can see the anti-woman Catholics are out in full force on DU. Shame _ed_ Jun 2012 #38
If being against a bunch of misogynist child-fuckers makes me a "bigot"... Odin2005 Jun 2012 #46
Do you even know what a doctrine is? SylviaD Jun 2012 #48
Not to jump christx30 Jun 2012 #55
The Catholic Church was vehemently against women's suffrage throughout the world waddirum Jun 2012 #58
I grew up Catholic _ed_ Jun 2012 #66
OK . . . if they want to forego every red cent of public money . . . MrModerate Jun 2012 #36
I care what Catholics think about birth contol just about as much _ed_ Jun 2012 #39
We believe it's a horrible tragedy... SylviaD Jun 2012 #50
You have had decades. Occulus Jun 2012 #52
You are wrong, no one wants you dead!!! n/t SylviaD Jun 2012 #56
Care to explain these? Occulus Jun 2012 #63
That would be why the Church is so pro-condom, right? LeftyMom Jun 2012 #67
I'm judging the many for providing money to the few in the collection plate _ed_ Jun 2012 #65
Catholic Hospital the only Hospital in town HockeyMom Jun 2012 #45
Cut off all federal money to these ***holes. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #47
There are ***holes in the church, that's true. Also some of them on DU. n/t SylviaD Jun 2012 #49
Yes. people who defend and are part of an organization which Occulus Jun 2012 #53
If you're so unhappy here after 56 posts try the X button at the top right hand side of your browser LeftyMom Jun 2012 #54
I've been here since 2008. n/t SylviaD Jun 2012 #57
Nobody's making you stay. Since we're all anti-Catholic bigots and all, LeftyMom Jun 2012 #68
This is why I lurk and read, instead of posting. n/t SylviaD Jun 2012 #69
This is why the "compromise" will never work for the Catholic Church HockeyMom Jun 2012 #62
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