There has also been a rise in Celiac disease (caused by gluten ingestion), (Reply #2)

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Thu Jun 14, 2012, 08:51 PM

pnwmom (95,629 posts)

2. There has also been a rise in Celiac disease (caused by gluten ingestion),

as measured in blood tests.

And this isn't just because doctors are looking harder for it. There was a study involving blood samples that had been collected decades ago, compared to recent samples given by the same people. Many of the people who produce gluten antibodies now did not produce them decades ago -- something happened in the meantime.

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107 replies	Author	Time	Post
Sharp rise in child bowel disease cases [View all]	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	OP
The food the people in this world eat today, is total CRAP. - :-/ K&R n/t	DeSwiss	Jun 2012	#1
You are too kind. It's so overprocessed and adulterated it's not food. It's just the idea of food.	freshwest	Jun 2012	#4
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So is that picture. What's it got to do with the thread?	freshwest	Jun 2012	#21
I'm guessing it's b/c if you stuff yourself with crap food, you become obese & get bowel diseases	wordpix	Jun 2012	#30
There has also been a rise in Celiac disease (caused by gluten ingestion),	pnwmom	Jun 2012	#2
I've been wondering about that.	shcrane71	Jun 2012	#7
It hasn't been such a large part of the diet. For example, in Ireland	pnwmom	Jun 2012	#9
But wheat wasn't making people sick for so many years?	shcrane71	Jun 2012	#11
The wheat we ate hundreds of years ago	noamnety	Jun 2012	#10
Thanks for the links. I'll have to research this. nt	shcrane71	Jun 2012	#13
I knew a guy whose family raised wheat. He told me that the wheat we eat is not the wheat we ate.	TalkingDog	Jun 2012	#14
Is there any way to get the wheat that we used to eat?	shcrane71	Jun 2012	#16
Yes - it's called einkorn wheat.	noamnety	Jun 2012	#17
Interesting... I've bookmarked this for a test taste....	midnight	Jun 2012	#24
there are a bunch of us small farmers	Tumbulu	Jun 2012	#26
Also lots of tinkering with wheat gluten to make it a protein source.	GoCubsGo	Jun 2012	#35
maybe people have reactions to the pesticides & after-harvest chemicals sprayed on wheat, nuts, etc	wordpix	Jun 2012	#33
This probably does not help. But the fact that gluten has been selected for	TalkingDog	Jun 2012	#39
Wheat was heavily hybridized	Richard D	Jun 2012	#37
Do you know why? Was it so it would work better in processed foods? n/t	pnwmom	Jun 2012	#66
Here's an interesting interview	Richard D	Jun 2012	#67
Thanks, that is interesting.	pnwmom	Jun 2012	#68
Can you say Monsanto?	libodem	Jun 2012	#65
Too much processed	sense	Jun 2012	#3
Its an auto-immune disorder...	undeterred	Jun 2012	#5
It is well known..	sendero	Jun 2012	#36
Water?	Eastern Winds	Jun 2012	#6
Too much crap and processed food.	Remmah2	Jun 2012	#31
Or, too much use of anti-bacterials.	longship	Jun 2012	#8
I doubt we can produce a sterile environment - but we can sure	hedgehog	Jun 2012	#56
GMO Soy Protein in all our Soups and so many products...	KoKo	Jun 2012	#12
You are right	happynewyear	Jun 2012	#48
Get some SUN!	TalkingDog	Jun 2012	#15
+1	DeSwiss	Jun 2012	#22
Some of us are melanin deficient and can't take the sun -	hedgehog	Jun 2012	#57
very sad	BlancheSplanchnik	Jun 2012	#18
All of the above.	SalviaBlue	Jun 2012	#19
We're not eating dirty enough.	boppers	Jun 2012	#23
"Concentrated milk fat"? Butter? Butter isn't new to the Scottish diet.	Bette Noir	Jun 2012	#25
I agree - Vitamin D seems more likely	sybylla	Jun 2012	#32
And sunscreen/sunblock	laundry_queen	Jun 2012	#44
Age of Autism = Bullshit.	Odin2005	Jun 2012	#27
Thank you. They make me want to spit fire.	Butterbean	Jun 2012	#96
Less Vit D from the sun. Kids stay inside more now. nt	Javaman	Jun 2012	#28
I think its related to anti-biotic medicines.	DCBob	Jun 2012	#29
it's not a controversial topic at the hospital where I work	magical thyme	Jun 2012	#34
I have talked to some Drs about this..	DCBob	Jun 2012	#38
Possible. But antibiotics were overused to a greater extent in the past.	LeftishBrit	Jun 2012	#41
I agree.	laundry_queen	Jun 2012	#45
Yeah, antibiotics have been overprescribed for a long time and we are now seeing the results.	DCBob	Jun 2012	#47
Pretty much everything in your short post is completely untrue	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#43
Eveything in your post indicates you are completely uninformed..	DCBob	Jun 2012	#46
Oh no, I know all about the biodem movement and the new form of woo it is proposing	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#50
The link I posted references a respectable peer reviewed professional journal.	DCBob	Jun 2012	#51
Yes, I wasn't disputing the study I was disputing the conclusions from your first link	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#52
Do you dispute this...	DCBob	Jun 2012	#55
sorry then, I take some of this personally	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#58
No problem..	DCBob	Jun 2012	#59
Well, if I had to guess, at this point, I think we will see one of two things...	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#60
A lot of it is increased diagnosis, judging from my own experience	LeftishBrit	Jun 2012	#40
The only thing Age of Autism is good for is being the toilet of the Web	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#42
I checked out their website	4th law of robotics	Jun 2012	#49
AoA is ground zero for the anti-vac nutters	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#53
That sounds horrific	4th law of robotics	Jun 2012	#54
In addition to being off-topic your post is fiction, hence, no link.	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#61
Fact.	LeftyMom	Jun 2012	#71
Well, the ONLY mention of Kerri Rivera @ the AoA website is found within a single comment to a post.	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#76
MMS as been promoted on AoA since at least 2009.	LeftyMom	Jun 2012	#77
Anyone reading the archives of the AoA website realizes that your claim is blatantly false.	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#84
Like I said, 2009. And it's still being talked about in glowing terms as recently as a week ago.	LeftyMom	Jun 2012	#90
I have also seen autistic DUers decry AOA	obamanut2012	Jun 2012	#80
And here come the anti-vax nuts.	Odin2005	Jun 2012	#104
BTW, certain pediatric gastroenterologists are unsung heroes in the battle to understand autism -	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#62
You're bringing up Wakefield and associates as unsung heroes?	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#63
FYI, Harvard Health Pub: The Autism Revolution: Whole-Body Strategies for Making Life All It Can Be	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#64
omg....giving your kids bleach to DRINK?	Marrah_G	Jun 2012	#69
Sadly, this is a thing. They also get bleach enemas. And hot bleach baths.	LeftyMom	Jun 2012	#70
wtf	Marrah_G	Jun 2012	#72
it is the latest autism scam.	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#74
Well, the ONLY mention of Kerri Rivera @ the AoA website is found within a single comment to a post.	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#78
you are trying to argue the Bible is true by quoting the Bible	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#82
RE POST #74. Harvard's 'woo'?	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#89
free country, of course. my disgust is anti-vaccers and their ilk hurt children	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#91
Preposterous. Harvard's pediatric GI MDs invent the field, co-author text books, rewrite paradigms.	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#92
more Wakefield advocates, more AoA nonsense	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#93
Try using AoA in its role as an autism news aggregator instead of as a primary source - dual roles.	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#94
Not junk science??? The main hypothesis there is that vaccines cause autism!	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#95
Sadly, uh, no, it's more nuanced than that AS ADMITTED BY NONCONTROVERSIAL EXPERTS.	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#97
Hardly slander. Hell, I'll double down.	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#99
If the environment is a factor, it's a variable which can be altered. What does that threaten?	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#101
Scientific process rules all	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#102
Re: "Bio-medical practices will not cure nor treat autism."	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#107
Jenny McCarthy and Andrew Wakefield have a lot to answer for	obamanut2012	Jun 2012	#79
Link? Doesn't exist? Oh, the perils of poor reading comprehension.	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#81
This message was self-deleted by its author	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#85
Reading one-star Amazon reviews of McCarthy's books	obamanut2012	Jun 2012	#88
Fine, here is one link from 2009 at the height of the McCarthy Wakefield crap	Godhumor	Jun 2012	#86
McCarthy and Wakefield apologist?	obamanut2012	Jun 2012	#87
re	Expertsfromindia	Jun 2012	#73
I personally suspect GMO soy and corn.	GliderGuider	Jun 2012	#75
Makes sense if GMOs are disrupting the intestinal flora	siligut	Jun 2012	#83
Injecting shit from a healthy person into the colon of a sufferer has shown promise	FarCenter	Jun 2012	#98
Spare us that bizarre TREATMENT hypothesis; clearly, PREVENTION is preferable, say eating real food.	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#100
I fail to see why it is bizarre; if the right microbes aren't present they need to be introduced	FarCenter	Jun 2012	#105
What you eat as in horizontal gene transfer from GMO consumption, not fecal contamination.	proverbialwisdom	Jun 2012	#106
Ranchers have been doing this for ages	siligut	Jun 2012	#103

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