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TheWraith

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4. That's exactly what justifiable homicide laws are.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jun 2012

Which is what "stand your ground" is. Although technically that term is usually applied to SELF-defense, whereas this would be considered part of the "forcible felony" clause of justifiable homicide laws.

For those who don't know, basically every state authorizes deadly force to prevent or interrupt "forcible felonies," the list of which typically includes rape, sexual assault, or both, as well as sometimes explicitly singling out sexual abuse of a child. So in other words if you walk in on someone molesting a four year old, it's considered legally justifiable to use any means necessary to stop the assault up to and including killing the perpetrator if necessary. Although that is subject to the typical requirements that force be proportional.

If he caught the molester in the act the father will likely be OK bluestateguy Jun 2012 #1
Hope the father is not charged. eom tawadi Jun 2012 #2
That's exactly what justifiable homicide laws are. TheWraith Jun 2012 #4
He should have to prove he caught the molester in the act or it's just plane murder. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #22
He took his daughter to the hospital to check her for physical injuries. boppers Jun 2012 #33
Agree. AngryOldDem Jun 2012 #63
No grand jury will indict this guy. MrSlayer Jun 2012 #3
A grand jury will indict a ham sandwich. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #18
Ham sandwiches are rarely accused of murdering somebody accused of trying to molest their daughter. boppers Jun 2012 #34
"Murder" has a specific definition. This isn't it. He didn't murder anyone. Xithras Jun 2012 #65
I'm a pacifist. And I have this to say: Happyhippychick Jun 2012 #5
absolutely shanti Jun 2012 #24
Simple case of justifiable homicide, if I ever heard of one. nt daaron Jun 2012 #6
Cool... StateApparatus Jun 2012 #7
And the Murderer in the case you cite, was convicted of FIRST DEGREE MURDER happyslug Jun 2012 #10
Hey brainac SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #19
According to one witness. tabasco Jun 2012 #20
Do you understand the term "allegedly" ? demwing Jun 2012 #35
"Brainiac" EX500rider Jun 2012 #76
Charges... deathrind Jun 2012 #8
the child was screaming and her father heard her shanti Jun 2012 #25
you can indeed take the law into your own hands, its called self defense Bacchus4.0 Jun 2012 #56
So you protect your kid .... uberblonde Jun 2012 #9
He hit the guy until the guy gave up. boppers Jun 2012 #36
And he is remorseful as well. AngryOldDem Jun 2012 #64
Heck Yeah! neovente Jun 2012 #70
charges should be filed. iamthebandfanman Jun 2012 #11
I just hope there is real substance behind what the father saw... Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #12
Or maybe he caught his daughter telling the neighbor about dad molesting her. Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #13
Damn you. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #23
I'll bet many of those same people also read the story of the... Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #38
To the simpler mind, quick revenge is more important than justice. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #52
Yeah, people here are just so quick to applaud a father for defending his daughter HotRodTuna Jun 2012 #77
Is this Sharia Law? nt postulater Jun 2012 #14
Way to ruin your child's life. bitchkitty Jun 2012 #15
I've heard that rape of a four-year-old can also lead to problems later in life.. Psephos Jun 2012 #30
He wasn't forced to choose. bitchkitty Jun 2012 #32
I didn't say he was. Psephos Jun 2012 #42
"the civil, rational moment"? boppers Jun 2012 #50
Sarcasm. :) Psephos Jun 2012 #54
Well, maybe I'm a cold bitch then. bitchkitty Jun 2012 #72
I see, he should have gently pulled the pervert off his daughter and admonish him Beacool Jun 2012 #59
Oh, yea, that's exactly what I said. bitchkitty Jun 2012 #66
Idiot, yourself. Beacool Jun 2012 #68
"Deserves death? I daresay WheelWalker Jun 2012 #16
Those who fear death cannot seek justice in life. boppers Jun 2012 #49
Can't say I blame him. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #17
I keep coming back to that Assistant Coach at Penn State who left that little kid with his abuser. davsand Jun 2012 #21
I think the word 'allegedly' is in the wrong place in the subject line Skittles Jun 2012 #26
Yeah,...I noticed that too. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #28
and the victim ALLEGEDLY molested the child Skittles Jun 2012 #29
You have a point there. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #31
look at the responses in this thread Skittles Jun 2012 #40
I know. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #45
Allegedly kills man. boppers Jun 2012 #37
Okay, that's another twist. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #43
To be fair, as I understand it, he hit the guy until his opponent went limp. boppers Jun 2012 #46
...he hit the guy until his opponent went limp. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #47
Tacky and clever, but not biologically average. boppers Jun 2012 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #44
Hard for me to shed any tears for dead child molesters. BlueIris Jun 2012 #27
The bloodthirst in this thread sucks demwing Jun 2012 #39
I HEAR YOU Skittles Jun 2012 #41
If you can live in a world where being accused of child molestation is considered rational, you lose boppers Jun 2012 #51
To avoid future strawmen arguments, no one wants to live in a world rhett o rick Jun 2012 #55
We'll never know, will we? demwing Jun 2012 #57
As I said above, to some, quick revenge is more important than justice. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #53
A neighbor down the street revolution breeze Jun 2012 #61
It really isn't vengeance. It's biological instinct. Xithras Jun 2012 #62
Very well said. n/t Psephos Jun 2012 #67
I agree that protecting your child is instinctual demwing Jun 2012 #73
"Allegedly" killed a man? mainer Jun 2012 #58
The father apparently didn't intend to kill the man. Beacool Jun 2012 #60
good for him!I'd have done the same...maybe even bobbited him n/t neovente Jun 2012 #69
Juror job #1; Judge the man and the law as it applies to the case... ileus Jun 2012 #71
Considering all reports I have seen on TV, RebelOne Jun 2012 #74
meh RUMMYisFROSTED Jun 2012 #75
Going to use the self-delete now tawadi Jun 2012 #78
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