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In reply to the discussion: Stand Your Ground? Texas man kills teacher over noise complaint [View all]OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)So, you would expect the number of crimes to be much lower because they are such a small percent of the population. To reveal meaningful data, you'd have to take your raw numbers and calculate whether the deviations from the expected conviction rate of 2% of the non-concealed carry conviction rate were statistically significant--from eyeballing it, many of them probably are. If you did this work and verified statistical significance across a broad spectrum of crimes, you'd then have some convincing data, but again, only for Texas, only for the crimes listed, and only so much as you had evidence that convictions are a reliable proxy for the true underlying rate of law violations.
To you, violent crimes may be the ones of concern. To me, bald statements of moral superiority (such as "CCW'ers are, actually, more law-abiding on average." are of concern -- and this statement was not made by you, but your chart was used to defend it. However, even by your own terms, you don't have a causal relation--people don't become more moral or less violent once they have a gun permit -- they had fewer convictions to begin with. I am sure there are millions of people in Texas who also lack convictions for all the crimes on your list and who also lack gun permits, which again begs the question.
I find no evidence for such overly broad statements of underlying law-abidingness in your data, so we'll just have to agree to disagree.