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68. No. It's the Hillary supporters who will chase the Bernie supporters away who will

Sat Mar 5, 2016, 06:42 PM

Mar 2016

get Trump in.

Americans are supporting Trump and Bernie because we are sick of the pay-to-play corruption that our campaign finance system thrusts upon us. Hillary is the living, breathing product and star of that corrupt system.

If we Democrats want to win, we have no choice but to nominate Bernie. He is the antithesis of the pay-to-play system that Americans are rejecting -- revolting against by supporting Trump.

Of course, money in politics is not the topic. It's not how we talk about that pay-to-play-corruption.

We talk about it in terms of our trade policy.

That is because our trade policy is the dastardly product of the pay-to-play corruption, and it is the policy that is hurting Americans where it counts -- in their paychecks.

NAFTA, CAFTA -- all the trade policies that the multinational corporations have owned us and bought us out with.

They, those trade agreements, have to go or be drastically rewritten.

The TPP is unacceptable. It will bankrupt the US.

No one should trust Hillary on the TPP. Her discussion of it is full of weasel words that will allow her to push it once and if she is president.

Trump recognizes that trade is a big issue, the issue that can draw him votes from white people who are uncomfortable about his racist language but can deal with it if it means that they can get a better job that will pay more.

The Democratic Party loves Hillary's money. It is dark money. It is dank money. It is corrupt, unhealthy money. It's Hillary's money that is buying her the loyalty and support of so many leaders in the Democratic Party. They know that Bernie is right about a lot of the policy, but Hillary has the money.

If Trump wins in November, it will be because Democrats pick Hillary and her putrid corporate money over Bernie and his people's money.

Trump check-mates Hillary and on that one issue alone.

Every other issue flows from, returns to and is overwhelmed by that issue: corrupt campaign finance.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/why-hillary-could-be-lot-more-vulnerable-trump-bernie

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Here's Just How Massive Republicans' Super Tuesday Turnout Was [View all] MrModerate Mar 2016 OP

My honest opinion? It's about the establishment machine's effort to crush the Sanders candidacy. PatrickforO Mar 2016 #1

You are exactly right. Vinca Mar 2016 #17

sometime leftovers MFM008 Mar 2016 #77

Cold leftovers.. n/t agracie Mar 2016 #80

Right. 840high Mar 2016 #26

The way it's headed, IMO, Trump will win the 2016 presidency. Trump promotes new school like it or RKP5637 Mar 2016 #31

Neither Clinton nor Sanders, IMO, underestimates the volatility of running against a demagogue… MrModerate Mar 2016 #49

I don't think Hillary can beat Trump. OZi Mar 2016 #61

I know dozens of teapublicans angrychair Mar 2016 #73

Those who hate Clinton with a passion . . . MrModerate Mar 2016 #86

As long as we all stick together, I also think it's doable! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2016 #70

THE.RIGHT.HATES.HER! Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #78

I don't see the anti-Clinton passion as sustainable . . . MrModerate Mar 2016 #87

You don't see anti-Clinton passion as sustainable? Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #88

Not to worry, I *am* worried . . . MrModerate Mar 2016 #89

Yep. And if they have to take the whole ship down rather than step out of the way, they will. silvershadow Mar 2016 #53

I hope Sanders wins; if not, we lose in November Vote2016 Mar 2016 #71

There is much better GOTV in the states Sanders TexasBushwhacker Mar 2016 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Mar 2016 #79

The dynamics are different on Dem side than they are on the Rep side. YOHABLO Mar 2016 #2

That doesn't really scare me sharp_stick Mar 2016 #3

Primaries are when voter rolls are refined and voters are registered. TDale313 Mar 2016 #28

Another huge unspoken factor here is the demise of ACORN. They were responsible for getting Chakab Mar 2016 #39

I'm glad youbrought that up, bvar22 Mar 2016 #52

Yeah, I was incredibly disappointed with Obama after the way that he refused to speak up for Chakab Mar 2016 #72

Van Jones too. bvar22 Mar 2016 #75

I think enthusiasm trumps sanity in just about every election. If it is a rainy horrible election LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #4

This is the approaching storm no one is talking about. retrowire Mar 2016 #5

The low voter turnout for Democrats doesn't scream revolution to me. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #6

Nor enthusiasm. mac56 Mar 2016 #8

Yep, it screams grudging acceptance that the status quo with triumph once more. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #32

Depends on your version of Revolution Hydra Mar 2016 #83

IMO democrats like their both their choices katsy Mar 2016 #7

Trump is the most concise and compelling argument for not voting for Trump. n/t MrModerate Mar 2016 #50

Do you remember when it seemed impossible for GW Bush to get into the White House? Human101948 Mar 2016 #55

I do, and that's one reason I'm uncomfortable about Trump. MrModerate Mar 2016 #58

And this is why HRC would LOSE in the GE! SoapBox Mar 2016 #9

The GOP has more candidates running so the GOTV effort is greater. muntrv Mar 2016 #10

Doesn't scare me anymore. RiverNoord Mar 2016 #11

I dunno . . . MrModerate Mar 2016 #51

Here are some of the reasons that Hillary will lose to Trump. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #62

That is a very good article independentpiney Mar 2016 #84

I get the freak out about it Blue_Adept Mar 2016 #12

From your keyboard to the electorate's ear… n/t MrModerate Mar 2016 #54

Maybe it's because people are identifying as Independents? in some States, you cannot vote as an secondwind Mar 2016 #13

Very good point noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #76

Actually, states where Sanders won or was very close TexasBushwhacker Mar 2016 #14

As always, GOTV will be essential… MrModerate Mar 2016 #56

TV effect Pantagruelsmember Mar 2016 #15

Bernie and Hillary Could Debate The Size of Their Anatomy To Gin Interest... TomCADem Mar 2016 #16

Dem Candidates not as rabid as GOP Candidates Cmdr. Wolf Mar 2016 #18

A lot of Sanders voters like me are sick and tired of Democratic pollitics as usual. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #64

Factionalism: More Can = Less Zambero Mar 2016 #19

Yes it could florida08 Mar 2016 #20

They could swamp us or we could swamp them. ffr Mar 2016 #21

Case in point, Nevada. We out-did them by 12% ffr Mar 2016 #22

Way recommended. H2O Man Mar 2016 #23

I have a theory about this. Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #24

Sorry, but that is not a realistic view. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #66

Democrats have won the popular vote 5 of the last 6 presidential elections. yallerdawg Mar 2016 #25

Here's the real reason for their high turnout. roamer65 Mar 2016 #27

yep NJCher Mar 2016 #33

I agree with your analysis.... Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #37

Do these same people return to the polls in November? That's the question. n/t MrModerate Mar 2016 #57

'not as bad as tRump' is not gonna excite voters. but rest assured it is a premise that will be KG Mar 2016 #29

When Hillary is your candidate, that's about all you've got to run on. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #36

I don't see the GE as the same. Plus, Hillary will hurt tRump with his own video. lindysalsagal Mar 2016 #30

Not worried....yet UMTerp01 Mar 2016 #34

Without Sanders in the race, it would be much worse n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #35

The media presents it as a choice between the clown car and Hillary. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #38

People will turnout in droves to vote against Trump. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2016 #40

Well lets see Andy823 Mar 2016 #41

In Virginia, at my poll we had people telling us they were voting in the R primary peacebird Mar 2016 #42

i talked with a number of voters in VA who said that while i was canvassing... unaware that the best JudyM Mar 2016 #59

"Left" and right wing media obsession with Trump coming home to roost AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #43

According to real clear politics, Hillary's got it. lindysalsagal Mar 2016 #44

yeah Hillary is scaring them away PatrynXX Mar 2016 #45

In the 10 states where both parties had elections, Hillary got 3,514,567 votes muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #46

hmmm rtracey Mar 2016 #47

No. It's the Hillary supporters who will chase the Bernie supporters away who will JDPriestly Mar 2016 #68

well rtracey Mar 2016 #69

Biden bears great responsibility for the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 2005 which made it JDPriestly Mar 2016 #74

Complacency, Division houston16revival Mar 2016 #48

I have been pointing out that if Bernie were not running, the turn-out for Hillary alone JDPriestly Mar 2016 #60

The voters are finally fed up with politics as usual. Turbineguy Mar 2016 #63

Scared as hell zentrum Mar 2016 #65

It's because they have a hot contest treestar Mar 2016 #67

why? SusanLarson Mar 2016 #82

Few Dem contests that are neck and neck - Justice Mar 2016 #85

In other words: 3.8 million racist sh*theads are feeling empowered... Earth_First Mar 2016 #90